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post #1 of 7 Old 11-16-2010, 04:36 PM Thread Starter
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So my horse had his shoes pulled the other day for the winter and my farrier said he had mild laminitis as soon as he saw his bare feet. He has been slightly sore the past week or so. I had the vet out today who checked for a digital pulse and did not feel the typical "bounding" of a foundering horse and does not think it is laminitis. We lunged him and he was not super lame but definitly sore... his feet are also quite warm. The vet left me with some bute and told me to put him back out with the rest of the horses (which I did not do because I am still afraid of the possibilites, he has foundered before.) He did have pigeon fever a few months ago, but any signs have cleared up and it should be out of his system. Are there any suggestions of what else could be happening? Could this still be laminitis even with a faint digital pulse? (lets also keep in mind he was standing in cold mud for a while, which should restrict bloodflow)

I have some pictures from today. (2 days ago the white line was quite red, it may have been because they were just trimmed it was more visible.)



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post #2 of 7 Old 11-16-2010, 04:58 PM
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it looks like thrush to me. poor horse, put some ointment on it (i cant remember what it is called sorry)

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post #3 of 7 Old 11-16-2010, 07:05 PM Thread Starter
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Don't think so, that dark part you see is just mud because I only cleaned the white line well. Ill have a second look tho tomorrow. Thanks.
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post #4 of 7 Old 11-16-2010, 07:49 PM
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oh ok then sorry

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post #5 of 7 Old 11-16-2010, 08:33 PM
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When it comes to laminitis I normally trust my farrier over the vet... hooves are his business and there isn't always a bounding pulse .. I ahve a chronic lamintis mare like anything throws her into it and she has NEVER had a bounding pulse even when she wouldn't move

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post #6 of 7 Old 11-16-2010, 08:49 PM
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Now, I don't know what a horse's feet are "supposed" to look like after shoes have been pulled, but I do know what they should look like to be barefoot and these aren't it.

Maybe the farrier didn't want to do too much all at once, but the sole is overgrown, not allowing air circulation around the frog or proper movement either. I would suspect thrush as well, but you'll have a heck of a time trying to get rid of it with the frog so blocked in (first pic). Definite deterioration of the white line (1st more than 2nd), probably due to dirt and bacteria being trapped between the hoof and the shoe.

The heels look higher in the second picture, as opposed to the first where the heels are just slightly high. Is it just me, the pics, or is your farrier really trimming your horse so uneven from foot to foot?

Whether or not these are the problems, I can't tell you, but I advise you have someone else come out and look after your horse's feet -- at least while he is barefoot. Trimming for shoes and trimming for barefoot are two different methods. Your horse is not setup for barefoot right now. And with the white line as it is, I wouldn't put shoes back on either. Nice that she is getting a break for the winter.

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post #7 of 7 Old 11-16-2010, 09:09 PM
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Looks like deep sulcus thrush. Take a hoof pick and press it into the groove at the back of the heel bulb. If it goes in, that is deep sulcus thrush. Thankfully it easy to treat. There's a product called Dry Cow. It's a penicillin product you can order from Tractor Supply. Simply apply the Dry Cow into the crack, (usually is more like a crater in there, most people catch it in an advanced stage). Re-apply every 2 days. Keep the foot uncovered since air will help kill off any anerobic bacteria. The thrush will heal from the inside out. When the crack closes up, it's healed. For my horse it took 6 weeks.

Note- deep sulcus thrush is almost always caused by improper trimming. Long toes and contracted heels are an invitation for it.

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