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        07-17-2011, 08:45 PM
      #1
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    Help!!

    I found a strange lump on my 23 year old shire's inside rear left hind leg about a week ago. I called the vet and she did some tests on the lump and it turns out that he has cancer and it is rapidly spreading. I can't bear to put him down because I have owned him for 22 years but yet at the same time don't want the chemotherapy for him. He never showed any signs of age until maybe three days before I found the lump. He used to look like a stronger healthy horse but now his coat & eyes are dull, and a sway back is starting to form. I asked my neighor, whos horse died just a few years ago from cancer, and he said " SSC." He told me that it means " Shoot, shovel cry." I can't believe that he went right out and said that to me.Does anyone know any herbal or "natural" remedies that would help him? Besides my neighbors advice. I can't get any photos of the lump, mainly because Titan will not let me or anyone else near that air. The vet had to give him a strong sedative in order to do her job.
         
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        07-17-2011, 08:53 PM
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    Trained
    I am very sorry, for both of you. The most you can do is give himn all the love you can and make his remaining days the best they can possibly be. WHen the time come, I hope you have the strength to do what is best for him before he suffers......I have a 22 yr old draft cross I have had for years also, and I realize he is certainly not what he used to be. I can fully understand how you feel. I can only hope he gives you a clear "sign" when it is time, as some of my dogs have. That makes it a it easier, I think, altho certainly it is still a very difficult thing to do. I cannot bear to see any of my animals suffer.
         
        07-17-2011, 08:55 PM
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    Started
    I'm really sorry about your horse, but if the cancer is rapidly spreading even chemo may not cure him. Did the vet say what kind of cancer he has? Sometimes removing the cancerous lump is enough but it depends on what kind of cancer it is. My moms dog developed mast cell cancer which is supposed to be a very fast spreading deadly cancer but once we removed the lump she was fine for another 4 years then she got another lump which we also removed and she lived for another 2. She was a deaf white boxer and she lived to about 12 years old.

    I have a horse who is about 36 and I've owned him for 13 years so I can understand how hard this is for you
         
        07-18-2011, 07:00 AM
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    The vet told me that it is bone cancer
         
        07-18-2011, 10:28 AM
      #5
    Green Broke
    I'm so sorry for you & your horse. That's a tough diagnosis. You'll know when you have to make a decision.
    Your neighbor is a jerk.
         
        07-18-2011, 10:38 AM
      #6
    Trained
    I'm very sorry for what's going on. It's a terrible decision to have to make. Unfortunately, chemotherapy may not even work let alone any herbal/homeopathic remedy's. Putting him down sounds like the most humane thing to do, as difficult as that is. I think he will tell you when he is ready and in the meantime just try to keep him as comfortable as you can.

    So sorry.
         
        07-18-2011, 10:40 AM
      #7
    Showing
    If it's bone cancer and spreading rapidly, you need to stop worrying about your emotional state and start thinking about the horse.

    He'll shortly be or perhaps already is in a massive amount of pain, and you're going to have to make plans to have him put down sooner rather than later.

    This isn't about YOU, it's about a horse whose quality of life is already deteriorating.

    If his eyes are dull, it's already past time to do something for him.

    Better a month too soon than even a few minutes too late.

    Show us you're a true horse person and do the right thing by your animal, not keep him alive because you're worried about the pain you're going to feel at his loss.
         
        07-18-2011, 10:43 AM
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    KDW
    Foal
    I do not have any advice for you. But I just had to put my 27 yr old TB gelding down on the 26th of June. He had cushing's disease and normally during the winters the TB's would lose weight but bounce back in the springtime. Our other TB did, he did not. His coat was already dull and he didn't seem too interested in much of anything, ie, eating, drinking, going out of his stall etc. so finally the day came when he kept going down and having a hard time getting back up. The vet came and said, although it was our decision on whether we wanted to prolong his life longer, it was in his best interest to be put down, she also said she believed he had in fact developed cancer in his intestines and that it had been slowly spreading. We had him euthanized that very day. Although it was extremely hard on us, we just couldn't let him suffer.
    I believe if he isn't the way he used to be, then maybe it is time to let go. Horses body language and just their general overall looks change when they aren't feeling right or when they are trying to tell you it's their time. I think maybe he is trying to tell you he is ready. You are just going to have to put on a brave face and tell him "it's okay, you understand he is in pain, and that you love him." I would have the vet out and have him humanely euthanized. In the end it is a VERY hard decision, but, do you think he deserves to suffer because you can't let go? Or that he deserves some peace. Good luck and I am very sorry this has happened.
         
        07-18-2011, 10:45 AM
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    Originally Posted by Speed Racer    
    If it's bone cancer and spreading rapidly, you need to stop worrying about your emotional state and start thinking about the horse.

    He'll shortly be or perhaps already is in a massive amount of pain, and you're going to have to make plans to have him put down sooner rather than later.

    This isn't about YOU, it's about a horse whose quality of life is already deteriorating.

    If his eyes are dull, it's already past time to do something for him.

    Better a month too soon than even a few minutes too late.
    I have to agree with this totally!
         
        07-18-2011, 11:12 AM
      #10
    Weanling
    Bone Cancer is more common in older horses (15 + years) and it is indeed a very sad situation. You must not let your old friend suffer. Spend a day telling him how much you care about him and let him go. Let him go out proud and beautiful as he deserves.
    Find the strength..
         

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