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post #1 of 54 Old 09-11-2011, 06:09 PM Thread Starter
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Question Help! Excessive urine a threat to my board!?

Hi, I apologize for the length, but I want to be thorough. About a month ago I posted a thread asking about how much water your horses consume. I learned that my horse drinks right on par with others in a very hot climate, 30-40 gallons a day. I also had the vet out who looked him over and tested his blood. No problems found and she just said ‘some horses drink more than others.’

I live in AZ and my horse is an 8 year old Appendix who I work between 30 and 60 minutes 5 days a week. He is turned out at least 3 hours a day depending on pasture status. (If the pastures are wet from irrigation, the BO turns out in the arena, which offers no shade, and she makes sure the horses aren’t out too long. It’s been a ridiculously hot summer.) He loves his water and drinks until the water is gone, almost no matter how much is in the bucket. BO has taken to rationing and he gets ten gallons with breakfast, 5 with lunch, and ten more with dinner for night. He also has free choice water while on turnout.

My barn has only 5 horses and the BO is the one who takes care of all of them. (Feeding, mucking, turning out.) His stall is half mat and half shavings. BO has a system where she separates wet bedding and lays it out on the mat, so it dries out and can be reused for several days.

My problem is this: my horse urinates a lot, and the BO told me that there is so much wet bedding that as the weather cools, the bedding won’t dry and will need to be replaced. She estimated this will add $100 to $150 to the board each month or be such a burden on her that she won’t be able to keep him. I very much want to stay here; I found this barn after a long search and have only been here since 7/30/11. His prior barn had auto waterers, so I don’t really know how much he drank prior to the move. His stall never seemed excessively wet to me. I am attaching photos of his stall yesterday. The wet bedding is what was created between 3pm and 5pm.

So my questions are: Does this sound like excessive drinking? If so, why would he drink in this way? Does this look like excessive urine? What can I do to stop him from drinking his water till it’s gone? Also, I hate the rationing, but I see him daily and always check him for dehydration, and have never seen a problem. He gets free choice salt and mineral blocks, and on the BO and my trainer’s recommendation gets a daily electrolyte supplement.

Please help us not get evicted!
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post #2 of 54 Old 09-11-2011, 06:13 PM
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What all tests has the vet done?

As for reusing dry urine-soaked bedding....bad idea on the BO's part. Ammonia fumes, anyone?
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Vet did a full blood panel (I have the results in front of me if anyone has questions about specific things) and I thought so too, but within an hour the bedding is bone dry and no fumes.
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if he has free choice mineral and salt block he doesnt need electrolyte supplements, forc ed on him for starters,
Second why not just let the horse stay in the field, pasture and let them free choice back and forth into the barn?
I never really understood the caging a horse all day mentality. Causes lots of problems, like this one, My horses never urinate or defecate in the stalls, the go out side. I figure they know when they want to be in or not
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Trust me, I'd much rather have him get more pasture time, but I was unable to find anything like that here. I moved him so he would get more turnout. The way this particular barn is set up, open stall to pasture isn't an option. I even asked her if she would be willing to have him in pasture board and she said no. I couldn't find any pasture board anywhere nearby that also has an arena.

Regarding the electrolytes + salt/mineral block, when I first got him I put the blocks out because I too trust him to know what he needs. The supplement was recommended after the vet visit and supported by my trainer. We will probably pull it soon, but he sweats and is in work, so I would hate for him to be low on electrolytes.
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What type of shavings are they using? I think that can play a huge role in how much is used.

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What type of shavings are they using? I think that can play a huge role in how much is used.
Ya know, I'm not sure what kind. I'll look tonight. I know she actually filters it before she puts it in, hand picking out the sticks and other rough peices and dumping the shavings dust into the arena rather than in the stalls. No dust, it's pretty amazing here in AZ
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Just a thought... maybe he drinks so much water because he is bored of being in the stall most of the day, and drinking water is just something to do?
I know my mare does silly things like that if she ever has to stay in one place longer than an hour
Maybe get him some stall toys?
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I would ask her if you could provide you're own shavings, or if she would be willing to get a special shavings for him only. We use a combination of sand and the pelleted shavings in our stalls. And you hardly ever see urine spots.

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That looks totally normal to me. I wouldn't have a problem with that stall at all and in AZ my horses drank a lot too, it just goes with the territory.

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