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post #11 of 23 Old 04-06-2009, 08:09 PM Thread Starter
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thank you I will definitely try it
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post #12 of 23 Old 04-06-2009, 08:52 PM
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good quality protien and exercise using his hindend!!

What is his diet NOW andn what have you tried???

Hill work does wonders as does backing, ground poles and transitions done PROPERLY

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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post #13 of 23 Old 04-07-2009, 03:39 PM Thread Starter
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good quality protien and exercise using his hindend!!

What is his diet NOW andn what have you tried???

Hill work does wonders as does backing, ground poles and transitions done PROPERLY

I give him the stuff that I listed..i have tryed sooo much stuff its hard to rember but its like imposible to do hill work because I live in florida lol
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post #14 of 23 Old 04-07-2009, 06:11 PM
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i give him a 2 pound scoop of sweet pellet and a 2 pound scoop of ranch horse mix( all grain) and 3 flakes of t&a and that is just in the morning.. at night he gets the same feed but more hay..
that's what you told us you were feeding your horse... now I don;t know about you, but out here "sweet pellet" can mean ANYTHING... LOL! And i'm not sure what Ranch Horse Mix is.

Could you pull the nutritional tag off of your bags of feed and list the Protien, Fiber, and Fat percentages? And maybe the first few ingredients? Those percentages along with the quality of the ingredients are really whats important =)

I think that'll help more than just naming the type of feed =)

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post #15 of 23 Old 04-07-2009, 07:00 PM
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grains are high in sugar and don't digest in the stomach so the protiens in them are "wasted" ...

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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post #16 of 23 Old 04-08-2009, 08:33 AM
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You're giving him too much grain. If you want more muscle, you need LESS sugar/starch and more protein. I would cut out the sweet feed entirely and switch to just one pound of a ration balancer type feed. If you post your zip code, I or PeggySue can see what's available locally.

What is in the ranch mix? If there is any corn, I would cut that out too, and switch to either hay pellets (alfalfa or alfalfa/timothy mix) or plain whole oats.

Add to his diet 1/2 cup of milled flax or 1/2 cup of corn oil for added fat, once or twice a day.

All that sugar and starch is reving up his metabolism, which makes him burn more calories, which makes him lose weight and condition. Trust me on this one, it happened to my own horse plus a few others I have cared for. Getting them OFF the sweet feeds and high starch feeds is what made them gain good muscle weight.

For work to build muscle, walk and trot up hill, trot over ground poles, and backing work, all with his head lowered and his rear end really driving from behind. If he lunges, work him in side reins set let at the trot and canter, really driving him forward so you see those hind legs reaching well under his belly.
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ok... 11% sewwt pellets-crude protein min 11%,, crude fat 3.50%.....crude fiber max 25%,,,,,calcium min1% max 1.5%.....phosphorus min.50%...copper min 20 ppm selenum min .30ppm.... zink min 80 ppm vitamin a min 2000 iu/lb

Ingredients--- weat middlins , peanut hulls, rice mill feed, soybean meal, grain screenings, cane molasses, vegetable oil.. I realy don't feel like listing the rest.. and there is no tag on the ranch horse mix if got ripped off
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You're giving him too much grain. If you want more muscle, you need LESS sugar/starch and more protein. I would cut out the sweet feed entirely and switch to just one pound of a ration balancer type feed. If you post your zip code, I or PeggySue can see what's available locally.

What is in the ranch mix? If there is any corn, I would cut that out too, and switch to either hay pellets (alfalfa or alfalfa/timothy mix) or plain whole oats.

Add to his diet 1/2 cup of milled flax or 1/2 cup of corn oil for added fat, once or twice a day.

All that sugar and starch is reving up his metabolism, which makes him burn more calories, which makes him lose weight and condition. Trust me on this one, it happened to my own horse plus a few others I have cared for. Getting them OFF the sweet feeds and high starch feeds is what made them gain good muscle weight.

For work to build muscle, walk and trot up hill, trot over ground poles, and backing work, all with his head lowered and his rear end really driving from behind. If he lunges, work him in side reins set let at the trot and canter, really driving him forward so you see those hind legs reaching well under his belly.


How much would the ration balancer cost????
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post #19 of 23 Old 04-08-2009, 10:22 AM
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how much would the ration balancer cost????

Ration balancers usually end up being cheaper because you feed much less as they are designed to make up for whatever may not be present in your main feed (which should be forage). You should be feeding based on weight too... I don't remember if you said, but what kind of forage are you giving him?
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post #20 of 23 Old 04-08-2009, 10:28 AM
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As was mentioned - it's his build. It's called a goose rump.

If that is a recent photo, I would like to see more weight on him overall. But as far as his build, you can't change the base structure.
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