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post #11 of 21 Old 01-20-2009, 06:11 PM
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Lucerne hay can still be too high in NSC's. You should either have it tested by a forage lab or go ahead and soak it for 30-60 minutes and then drain off the water before feeding it.

Also, if you are looking at low NSC feeds you will need to cut out ALL grain products---these can be as high as 45% NSC's and you need to be shooting for an overall dietary NSC content of about 12% in a horse with metabolic diseases like Insulin Resistance. You should choose a forage based supplemental feed to provide balanced nutrition when fed with the type of hay you have and that has a low NSC content.

Again, this is all if your horse has a metabolic condition. Otherwise you don't have to worry so about the NSC content but you still need to work on getting a more palatable and balanced diet than the one you are feeding.

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post #12 of 21 Old 01-21-2009, 12:24 AM Thread Starter
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ok I rang the vet and he isnt allowed grains because he has inflamed feet already and grains could trigger secondary laminitis.

I am going to start feeding him some pony pellets as well as the copra and the oaten hay.

I am going to get the mobile vet out next time she is comming through and get her to give him a dose of parthen oil (i think that's what it is called) to clean him out and get her to take some blood to test it for any organ diseases that could have been caused by all of his medication.

The vet said that the reason he could have stopped eating could be that he has a gastric inflamation, kidney inflamation and he could have been colicy.

He is eating normally now and I will see how he goes once he is eating some pony pellets. But I will still get the mobile vet out even if he starts gaining weight and comtinues to go well.
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Hi - if you are open to this try the following: there is an ayurvedic herb company in the UK who have a very good vet onsite. They can give you advice over the phone and also they have herbs etc which may help to improve the condition of your poor horse. Here is the website and you can ask to speak to the vet there: Herbs for Horses, Dogs, Cats & Other Pets - Global.
Another homoepathic vet I can recommend is Christopher Day - ttp://www.any-uk-vet.co.uk/day/ and there are people who do hair-analysis - unfortunately I only know about some of them doing this in the UK - I believe that Global Herbs may have some contacts with people doing this. Wishing you r horse a full recovery!
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ok I rang the vet and he isnt allowed grains because he has inflamed feet already and grains could trigger secondary laminitis.

I am going to start feeding him some pony pellets as well as the copra and the oaten hay.
The things in grain which might trigger laminitis are the non-structural carbs, which are the same things that are so high in the oaten hay though not as high as in grains. So, if grains are a concern then the oaten hay should also be soaked or removed from the diet.

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post #15 of 21 Old 01-21-2009, 10:40 PM Thread Starter
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will lucern be ok to feed him? The only hay I can feed him is oaten hay or lucern hay so which one will be better?
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Hi mybeautifulhorse! That sounds good, thanks for your advise!
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post #17 of 21 Old 01-21-2009, 11:06 PM
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I'm very sorry to hear about your horse. I can't imagine the frustration and heart ache you must have right now. I agree with Cindy. Get all the details from your veterinarian and also let them know what is going on now. If that vet won't listen to you then get another opinion. Find a vet that specializes in equine medicine. If it wasn't for my vet that is certified in equine medicine, my show gelding would still be out to pasture and on pain meds. Your horse depends on you for his health. Good luck and keep us posted.
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post #18 of 21 Old 01-22-2009, 07:35 AM Thread Starter
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we had a vet that specialised in horses but she left the state to go to some equine technology place to further study so now we have to find another vet which is frustrating! It has been a long hall with chucky with lots of tears! But it finally seems he is starting to come good. Just the last couple of days he has gained weight and now he is acting like the old chucky which I havent seen in many months! I am so happy to have his bubbly, funny character back!!! It will take a couple of months still to see if he has fully recovered though but at the moment it is looking good.
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Lucerne hay is also high in NSC's. If those are the only two you can find, then you need to soak them in cold water for at least 30 minutes prior to feeding your horse. This will help leech out some of the NSC's. But it can also leech out other nutrients, so you should have a vitamin/mineral supplement made to go with that type of hay available to your horse.

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post #20 of 21 Old 01-22-2009, 06:50 PM Thread Starter
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ok thanks a heap, I will do that.
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