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post #1 of 25 Old 02-24-2012, 10:17 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation Help my mare and i please last chance before selling

hi, my horse red is a morgan mare.

i have had her since last june and she was a dream to a 14 year old girl ;P
she has been great until 3 months ago or so i baught a western saddle (she normally goes english) and just rode in the western saddle but steerd english. Red started to buck in the saddle so i got rid of it thinking that sh didnt like the weight and maybe it did pinch her. So i went back to riding english and ever since than when ever i ride her shes ok at walk and trot until i as her ot do somehting at the trot than she starts throwing her head and stomping and kicking out. Shes still sweet as can be on the ground. I used to be able to get on and kick her into a canter and now she acts like she wants to go and i kick her to go and she pins her heads and threatens to buck.

I tested my saddle and all my tack by trying a new saddle and girth and riding in a haltor and a pair of clip on reins and she wasnt very much more behaved. Her back is not sore after we get done riding and she has had no problems with anything on her body (hoofs,legs, etc)

i am VERY scared and miss the old mare i used to have, Shes starting to scare me and i dont want to give her back...i love her very much PLEASE help!!

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post #2 of 25 Old 02-24-2012, 10:21 PM
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what checks have you actualy done on her back?

I would lay money on the fact that her back is sore, caused by a badly fitting western saddle and then compounded by a poorly fitting english saddle.

Saddles are very difficult to fit to horses unless you know what you are doing, trying a different one on her doesnt proove anything it could be equaly as badly fitting as your other one.

i realy think you need to get a good horse vet out to her, a physio and a saddle fitter.

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post #3 of 25 Old 02-24-2012, 10:25 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks so much for a reply. We have a vet on premises that lives at our farm and they are all convinced that it is just her being a bitch... but for 3 months??? somethings wrong. We have tested the saddle to see if it fits and it does fit perfectly to her back. Its the same saddle i have been riding in since the day i first got her.
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post #4 of 25 Old 02-24-2012, 10:26 PM
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First off, Paige, howdy and welcome to the forum.

I am so sorry that you are having such a tough time with your horse. Since this all began when you rode her in the western saddle, then I would say it stems from a poor tack fit issue.

Have you had her seen by a chiropractor? If the western saddle fit her just wrong in just the right place, it could have knocked a rib out of place or caused her spine to become mis-aligned. Or, she may have done it herself when she was bucking that first time. Or, she may have hurt herself another way while turned out and the timing is just coincidence.

Also, you mentioned "kicking" her to get her to canter. How much riding experience do you have? Have you ever had lessons? It is entirely possible that she has become soured to your legs from too much kicking and the bucking is her way of saying "Hey, I don't like that, you need to stop it".

I would say that your first step would be to get her checked for pain by a chiropractor. Then, find a good instructor or trainer that is willing to work with both you and your mare so that you can learn to work together better.

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I would have her checked for ulcers as well. That will have a drastic change in a horses attitude if they are in pain due to a bad stomach ache.

I would have a chiropractor look at her before making any rash decisions to get rid of her. If she checks out with that, have a trainer ride her. And then take lessons.

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post #6 of 25 Old 02-24-2012, 10:29 PM
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Listen to faye's advice before your give up on our mare! I have had horses come to me with similar "behavior" issues that were actually discomfort from ill fitting saddles...even saddles that were used months earlier. A chiropractor, equine massage therapist and your vet can help. Go check out and start researching saddle issues and you will be amazed...I was!
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post #7 of 25 Old 02-24-2012, 10:34 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you all so much!! and to smrobs, i didn't legit mean kicking sorry i meant push her into it. my legs are my least problem its my hands and i am trying to get out of her mouth and i have been doing better so its not that. how expensive can a chiropractor get??? i read a article in EQUUS this month on something that sounded like how my mare was acting. I also do not take lessons at the moment to expeinsive... i just ride for fun and show sometimes

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post #8 of 25 Old 02-24-2012, 10:38 PM
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When you ride he with the saddle when you remove the saddle is the sweat on her back even with no dry patches. Dry patches are a sign of presure points that means the saddle isnt fitting her right. And like the others said maybe she in pain or out of wack like smrobs said she might not like you kicking her. I have a gelding who gets pissed off if you kick him so its possible shes telling you to stop it. Just some thing to think about best of luck.
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Where are you located? PM and I will see if I can find you someone in your area. I have a client in Maryland and she may be able to give referrals.

I pay about $75 for my chiro appointment but it is way worth it considering the alternative.
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post #10 of 25 Old 02-24-2012, 10:41 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you all! your being so helpful, i ride her with a riser pad would that make a differnece showing sweat? and she really dosnt sweat.... becuase i dont push her to work cuz she gets all pissy the minuet i ask her to do something.

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