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    06-17-2012, 10:00 PM
  #41
Trained
To OP(original poster - klaatu),

I feel that people have gone over the top & 'jumped down your throat' unfairly, without considering different situations, knowledge, etc. (Someone even said something about irresponsability for not getting a vet out for Coggins - is that even an issue in Australia?? I & everyone I know must be irresponsible too on that note)

However, it doesn't help attitudes towards you when you change your story, esp after getting stuck into someone for not reading it right, and given your story, I do agree with the basic sentiment, if not the judging & 'flaming'.

The story as I see it; The horse had a serious nail injury & infection, which was not treated appropriately for (?) months. You now know this is an emergency, not something to 'wait & see' about. It is no argument to say you've heard of others that have pulled through without veterinary care - not every... heroine addict dies of heroin either, but it doesn't make it a safe choice.

Now it may be 'too little too late' regardless of how much you were willing to spend on the horse, but as you're not willing(or able - not judging). It's also not a good enough argument to say the horse was a freebie so not 'worth' the money - the horse doesn't know or care how much she cost you - she's still a horse & relies on your family for her wellbeing, to whome the responsibility falls. For the sake of the animal, who has already been suffering for months, I don't think a half hearted attempt of antibiotics & stable rest is good enough - & will likely just be a waste of your money & prolong her suffering.

So the way I see it, you have a few choices; keep on doing what you're doing & most likely get(& give her) what you've been getting, or worse. Get the horse into an equine hospital for adequate care & cross your fingers. Find her a home where the owner is willing to do that for her. Or put her out of her misery.

Where abouts is the infection & what has the vet said anyway? I presume you're here for a second opinion? Maybe because the vet has said something similar & you were hoping they were exaggerating? I suspect on the contrary you got a stronger response than the vet gave, because for one, I'm not sure if they're even allowed to be so blunt on the matter of putting animals down.
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    06-17-2012, 10:02 PM
  #42
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The story as I see it; The horse had a serious nail injury & infection, which was not treated appropriately for (?) months. You now know this is an emergency, not something to 'wait & see' about. It is no argument to say you've heard of others that have pulled through without veterinary care - not every... heroine addict dies of heroin either, but it doesn't make it a safe choice.

Now it may be 'too little too late' regardless of how much you were willing to spend on the horse, but as you're not willing(or able - not judging). It's also not a good enough argument to say the horse was a freebie so not 'worth' the money - the horse doesn't know or care how much she cost you - she's still a horse & relies on your family for her wellbeing, to whome the responsibility falls. For the sake of the animal, who has already been suffering for months, I don't think a half hearted attempt of antibiotics & stable rest is good enough - & will likely just be a waste of your money & prolong her suffering.

So the way I see it, you have a few choices; keep on doing what you're doing & most likely get(& give her) what you've been getting, or worse. Get the horse into an equine hospital for adequate care & cross your fingers. Find her a home where the owner is willing to do that for her. Or put her out of her misery.
Well said, loosie!
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    06-17-2012, 10:26 PM
  #43
Weanling
I quit reading after Sky quit posting.

OP, you are 17, not a child in terms of common sense. If you "have no say," what is the reason you asked for advice? I am really confused.

If you don't agree with someone, humble down and thank them for their input, then move on. Picking fights is a waste of time for everyone.

As for your horse (or whoevers horse she is), I pray that her pain eases, at the least. Clearly my advice to you will not be valued, so I will keep it to myself.
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    06-18-2012, 09:12 AM
  #44
Foal
This whole thread has made me very sad for the poor horse. I hope you view it as a life lesson. If you have no control, perhaps in the future, when you DO have control, you will not allow any animal to suffer like this.

Please put yourself in her shoes/hooves. How would you like to get the same treatment she was given? It is not rescuing an animal when they must endure this kind of treatment. This is precisely the sort of thing they need rescued FROM. Starving isn't the only "rescue" situation out there.

If, next year when you reach adulthood (presuming based on U.S. Law) you decide to own horses and be responsible for another life besides your own; here is some advice to help you when these situations occur. First you need a relationship with a good veterinarian. You get this by using their services and paying what you owe. That way, when something serious comes up that is expensive, they know you will pay them so will allow you to make payments.

It has already been suggested and it is a great idea to have a separate bank account JUST for the care of the animals you choose to be responsible for.

In addition to the above, I personally have a credit card set aside just for my animals in case they need vet care and I am short on cash. I had a mare colic very badly a couple of years ago and required nearly a whole week in ICU at our vet hospital. I did not have the cash to pay but I did have the credit card so my mare did not have to be put down.

Lastly, if you can't provide care IF and WHEN it is needed when it is YOUR decision and responsibility; PLEASE do not take in any animals until you can. It is not rescuing if you can't care for them. I hope the mare you posted about does not have to suffer very much longer. It really is cruel. I agree with loosie who said :

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So the way I see it, you have a few choices; keep on doing what you're doing & most likely get(& give her) what you've been getting, or worse. Get the horse into an equine hospital for adequate care & cross your fingers. Find her a home where the owner is willing to do that for her. Or put her out of her misery.
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    08-10-2012, 02:23 AM
  #45
Foal
Ok, I held off replying for so long, but I thought you should all know!!

After a month of posting this thread, this horse was still stabled and on herbs to help the pain..
And now.. she is perfect again!

She is running around with her friends in the paddock, loving life.

I am glad she is my horse and not some of yours, because after only a month or 2 of trying you were ready to give up and put her down?

It is like a human with a sprained or broken ankle.. yeh.. its going to hurt for a while, but it takes TIIIIMMMEEEEEE..

Things do not heal overnight no matter how much drugs you put into her...

So, thank you to anyone who gave advice,, and thank you to others who have shown me your attitudes....

Overall I think it was about 3 months of a full healing process.. that's not very long, as some of you would of ended her life for good


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    08-10-2012, 04:03 AM
  #46
Trained
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Originally Posted by klaatu    
i am glad she is my horse and not some of yours, because after only a month or 2 of trying you were ready to give up and put her down?
That wasn't the point at all. The point was you were willing to allow her to continue suffering with only half hearted treatment. You & she are very lucky you got away with it this time. Good to hear she's OK now.
     
    08-10-2012, 04:25 AM
  #47
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People suggested it if you couldnt adequately provide her care. Many here havr gone through hell nursing injuries back. Your attitude is quite horrible I am 17 but you bet if I saw something wrong I'd be making a fuss not going oh she was free so she's not worth the money, that's prettt selfish. I am very glad she healed however I hope you havr learned your lesson as that long recovery could have only been a month if you took care if it when noticed. Also it isnt like a person woth a broken or sprained ankle as they can take care of themselves and put themselves in to the hospital....just saying.
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    08-10-2012, 12:23 PM
  #48
Weanling
You are very lucky that this worked out so well.
Next time please don't leave it to fate... call the vet.
I am really glad the horse has recovered.
     
    08-10-2012, 12:24 PM
  #49
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Originally Posted by klaatu    
i am glad she is my horse and not some of yours, because after only a month or 2 of trying you were ready to give up and put her down?


omg. Seriously, im 17, she's not my horse, I have no say in what is spent on.



Interesting Which is it?
     
    08-10-2012, 06:30 PM
  #50
Trained
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Originally Posted by natisha    
Interesting Which is it?

That's an easy one, when things are going to hell, and people are for some reason getting upset because of statements like this

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ahhh I know it was way to late :( Just didnt want the cost of a vet incase she was going to heal herself. Never had to have a vet out before!
Don't know if we should go through that cost for a horse we got for free, saving her and probably giving her 10 more years of her life!
It's not my horse, not my responsibility, I have nothing to do with anything.

When the horse has against all odds survived and recovered despite the neglect, then it can be the Ops horse again, because now we are doubly meanie poopy heads for suggesting that walking around on a infected foot for months is cruelty.
     

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