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    10-23-2012, 09:50 AM
Ps will try to get a pic of saddle tday, it is tho the same saddle she has had all the time, bought it with her? She was broke beginning of this year if that helps?
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    10-23-2012, 11:09 AM
Originally Posted by hmv    
Been down and lunger her fine, walk trot etc etcsuperb!
Only hiccup being when tried to saddle her up she was bouncing all over the place but after a stern telling she seeemed to calm down a little and on went the saddle!
So seems that its the saddling up and getting on !
Only thing that throws it is that she bucked in the trot! But.. only once then was ok?!!
This is not a personal dig, we all come with our own level of knowledge and expertise but clearly you do not feel confident diagnosing whether or not there is pain. I think you should really stop trying to work her and have a vet out asap to have a look. If she is painful you're likely doing damage (physical and mental) but continuing to work her. From the sounds of it, you didn't have a PPE so I would recommend getting an evaluation on this filly now. For all you know she was buted or on something when you tried her out, though with the owners willing to take her back I doubt it.
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    10-23-2012, 07:15 PM
Originally Posted by hmv    
so seems that its the saddling up and getting on !
Only thing that throws it is that she bucked in the trot! But.. only once then was ok?!!
I don't understand what you're confused about. Why you felt the need to give her 'a stern telling' and persist in saddling her when it's obviously hurting her. So it sounds like saddle/back issues are what is wrong. Why does bucking at the trot 'throw' anything(apart from an unwary rider!)
    10-23-2012, 09:16 PM
See now she doesn't even want the saddle because she associates it with something bad - likely pain. QUIT getting in the saddle. QUIT putting on the saddle NOW. Put a blanket on her back after/during grooming to keep the training in place without any associated "badness."

Especially since she is young and still green by the sounds of it, you really need to take it back to before saddling stages. You don't want her to end up with a vice against all saddles.

Find out for sure if/where/why she is in pain. Find out for sure if the saddle fits. Then, and ONLY then, begin putting the correct saddle on her, correctly and DO NOT MOUNT.

Also, posting a pic of the saddle won't help us. It could be a $10,000 saddle but if it doesn't fit the horse, it's not worth 2 cents to you. Maybe, just maybe, you might get input from some really knowledgeable people if you post a pic of the pony and a pic of the saddle. Some people are really amazing about saying whether or not there is any chance at all that the saddle fits her. But it's not going to be the same as someone being there with your pony and with your saddle telling you.
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    10-23-2012, 09:19 PM
Green Broke
*head, saddle horn* -- You are risking ruining this horse permanently if you don't take two giant steps backwards.
    10-23-2012, 09:57 PM
Originally Posted by NorthernMama    
Also, posting a pic of the saddle won't help us. It could be a $10,000 saddle but if it doesn't fit the horse, it's not worth 2 cents to you.
i dunno, some saddles are pretty obviously too narrow or such. Eg. Gullet should be at least 3-4" wide and bars/forks should make something like an 80-90 degree angle. Many saddles, esp older types, seem more suited to the width of a greyhound, not any kind of horse!

If OP were to take some easily bendable wire and lay it across the rear of her withers and down over the horse's shoulder and if she took another piece of wire to run along the back beside the spine from wither to lumbar, then she would know how wide & what shape the horse's shoulders & back are, and laying this wire against the saddle should give an idea how right or wrong it is for the horse.

OP there's also a mob Balance International, who have a lot of great saddle fitting info on their site.

Once you ensure you have a comfortable, well fitting saddle for the horse, you still need to make sure it's positioned properly and check it's fit every few months or so, as horses & saddles change shape over time.
    10-23-2012, 09:57 PM
HMV, I know it sounds like people are getting pissy with you, but it is only because people come here for advice and then don't take it, even when everyone is telling them the same thing. They are frustrated, so please don't take it to heart. There are some incredible horsemen and women on here with really sound advice. I know you're new to the forum and don't want you to feel like anyone is unfairly being harsh, but please understand why the firm tone is starting to set in with most people's posts.
    10-23-2012, 10:08 PM
Tealamutt is right. I don't mean to be mean or rude, only firm. It's good that you are asking for advice.

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