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  • Putting weight on a senior horse
  • Whats a weight builder thats got 100% or 99% fat in it

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    01-12-2012, 02:28 PM
  #1
Foal
Exclamation Help!! Poor senior horse.

I have an older arabian horse and he has been undrweight for years. I have tried EVERYTHING that I know to do. I keep his teeth floated, the vet has checked him out, he has planty of energy and his coat is healthy. I have had him on several different weight builders, senior feed, beat pulp and he gets hay and grain every day. But I keep him stalled in the winter to keep him out of the harsh weather.
     
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    01-12-2012, 02:39 PM
  #2
Showing
What's his age? I'm fighting the weight loss battle with my coming 26 y/o. He was fine until last year, then he started dropping weight.

I tried beet pulp, senior feed, oil, etc. None of them helped. I put him on Blue Seal Carb-Guard, and while it hasn't PUT weight on him, it's stopped him from losing more.

Older horses, like older people, don't digest certain things well. The Carb-Guard was recommended to me by my vet, so I decided to try it. I'm hoping once winter is over, I can actually put some weight back on him.

Your horse isn't completely closed in all winter, is he? That's not good for him. If the weather's not wet, he should be out. Mine only come in if it's cold and raining/sleeting/snowing. Any other time, they're out 24/7.

Do you feed him a good quality hay in proper quantities? Horses, especially the older ones, need more hay in the winter to help them maintain their weight. Free choice is optimal, but sometimes not possible.
     
    01-12-2012, 02:46 PM
  #3
Trained
My horse, "Corporal", (1983-2009, RIP) was underweight from the time I bought him as a 4yo. He looked like a rail when I brought him home and I ALWAYS had trouble feeding him. Since I keep my horses a long time I'd always been insulted when people called 10yo and over "old," but they way that they masticate and digest does change around that age. My 13yo mare won't touch her grass hay if I mix it with alfalfa--she'll eat the grass if nothing else if offered, though, and she's probably a 5.5-6 on the Apgar weight scale.
What I DID with Corporal, who was about 15'1hh, was to offer 1 flake of grass hay covered with 2 flakes of alfalfa, 2x/day, pasture when available, so that the leaves would fall on the grass hay and he'd want to eat it all. He would ALWAYS gain a litle weight when on pasture alone, plentiful and in season. I also fed one 3lb coffee can of Purina Equine Senior, 2x/day. He had his teeth floated regularly. He was on the grain recipe 365 days/year.
Purina ran an experiment at the Ag School of Southern Illinois Univeristy a few years ago. They fed aged horses Equine Senior and all gained weight, including those who were almost toothless, btw. Beet pulp is difficult for older horses to masticate.
My Vet noticed that Corporal gained and maintained his weight once I started this recipe. Corporal was a bundle of energy even until his dying day, and you're not going to take that out of your Arab. Give him some turnout when the weather/footing is nice, or else he might pace the stall bc of nerves--better the energy grow/maintain some muscle than just burn off fat. I hope this helps, bc Corporal's weight problems drove ME to distraction. That's the great thing about owning a younger herd, which I have now--NO WEIGHT PROBLEMS!
     
    01-12-2012, 02:50 PM
  #4
Foal
He is 25 and he does get hay everyday, but I am going to up the quantity because he is going to be stalled more, I let him out on pretty days but here lately he even shivers in his stall. Would it be good to blanket him in the stall? I will look into getting that type of feed, I have had him on safe choice, purina strategy and purina senior. He didnt get any worse on those feeds but he didnt get any better on them either. Have you tried cool calories? It is a type of weight builder that doesnt hype them up but is 99% fat. It didnt work on my horse that is why I am thinking it could be something more serious like insulin resistance
     
    01-12-2012, 02:54 PM
  #5
Foal
I didnt use the beat pulp very long after I talked to my vet, she told me the same thing. I feed him year round with grain and hay even when he has grass but he still stays the same. I drives me crazy because when people see him they thin I don't feed him but my other two horses are in perfect condition.
     
    01-12-2012, 02:55 PM
  #6
Showing
If he's shivering in his stall you might want to get him a stable blanket when he's inside, and a waterproof one for when he's out.

The niggling thought about Mack perhaps being IR was the reason I switched him over to the Carb-Guard.

The two younger horses don't need any help in the weight department. They're both pudgeballs!
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    01-12-2012, 02:56 PM
  #7
Showing
A horse that is shivering can loose weight since that shivering will cause him to use calories to try to keep warm. If he is that cold, I would certainly blanket him even if he is stalled - especially at night.
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    01-12-2012, 03:00 PM
  #8
Foal
Thats what I was figuring, I have never really had to blanket a horse, are there anythings I need to do?
     
    01-12-2012, 03:03 PM
  #9
Showing
Well, if he's never been blanketed, you'll need to introduce it to him slowly. Most of them don't have conniptions, but some do.

If you can, get a blanket that buckles in the front, instead of being all one piece. That way, you won't have to lift it over his head to get it off and on.

Depending on where you live, you'll either need a mid or a heavy weight blanket.
     
    01-12-2012, 03:08 PM
  #10
Foal
Ok well I will definetly look into that feed. Iknow where you are coming fromi have two younger horses who are fat and sassy
     

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