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post #11 of 20 Old 08-17-2012, 03:04 PM Thread Starter
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[QUOTE]So tell me, what makes this horse a rescue? It appears to me that her previous owners were very accommodating and friendly.

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She was a rescue do to the fact she was under weight. Maybe I am not sure what is clarified as a rescue so I will just change the definition to I purchased a malnourished horse from a gentleman. Sorry for the misunderstanding. As for the previous owners I never said anything negative about them and again if rescue was the wrong term then I apologize.
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post #12 of 20 Old 08-18-2012, 04:23 AM
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So tell me, what makes this horse a rescue? It appears to me that her previous owners were very accommodating and friendly.
Umm I am a caregiver. and one of my clients is legally blind, and she is deaf. Having said that. Are you sight challenged?

So tell me, what makes you think, the people who owned that horse previously, were accommodating and friendly?

I bet they were their own needs.

Should I be worried about the animals under your care? Or are you just playing devils advocate? because you have nailed it.

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Oh and BTW. I consider my filly a rescue. She has never been underweight. Underloved, and neglected, qualify, as well. Her previous owners ( supposedly they are my brother and sister, but I want a DNA test) They bred her **** to have her, then they neglected and abandoned her. I see that mentality all the time in rescue. Person buys dog for 500 dollars. You think, wow they must love that dog. Nope. They will kick it to the curb if it no longer matches their mood.

Oh as I am writing this..the cat I rescued from my sister is sitting next to me. I can't believe this cat survived long enough for me to rescue.

And the dog I recued, from the homeless person who was being arrested, is on the floor next to me. He wont leave my side. Everytime I get up and leave a room, so does he. best **** security system I ever had. I feel safer than I ever have. I think he feels the same way.

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post #14 of 20 Old 08-18-2012, 05:46 AM
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Godiva - rescue is all about patience, time, care and understanding,
You can't rush things because lurking in the wings are colic and laminitis.

Your patient needs to build muscle as well as food.

So - the vet - only (s)he can tell if there are other nedical issues and you must be wary of ulcers and worms.
Check the teeth.
Check and rasp if necessary the feet.
Ask a McTimoney or Bowen chiro to look the horse over.
Listen for coughs.

Start with a diary - tape the belly to get some idea of weight and record the progression weekly. Photograph the horse regularly in the same spot from the same angles. Record progress.

Feed - ask the vet and the nutritionist in the local feed shop. Be careful not to overfeed too soon. Measure out the meals'
Hay - look for sweet smelling and weed free local hay.
Walk the grazing paddock and look for poisonous weeds and pull out any found.

but do not forget 'state of mind'. Establish a daily routine and stick with it rigidly. Do not give the animal cause for stress. Your longer term problem might be fear which you can only oversome by constancy.

Start walking the horse in hand in a closed arena. Just walk, stop, stand turn.
The horse must come to walk on a loose lead rope at your shoulder, at your pace, alongside you.
Lots of touching. Eventually move up to gentle trot. Constant repetition but very gentle work. Do not even think of riding - yet. Don't even think of buying a saddle yet. The horse has to have muscles before you can even fit an English type saddle.

Groom daily with a soft brush. Shampoo regularly to remove all dirt and dandruff.

Protect from the weather -against sun, rain and wind. Buy a summer coat with hood and neck cover. Protect against flies with anti fly cream.

Talk to the animal constantly.

I always work with treats - I'd keep an apple or a pear in my pocket. Parsnips or carrots will do. Cut up and feed by hand. Make it part of the daily routine.

Slowly introduce other horse owners to the animal - but beware ladies with strident voices and any young people rushing about waving their arms in the air and shouting. No loud rock music - if music is mandatory then slow gentle classical.

The photos suggest you will have a good looking horse when you have finished.
Your future problems will most likely settle around her fears and the possiblity of panic attacks which will only feed off all the goodness you feed into her.

You might want to think of an old companion pony - in which case you need to be very sure of the mutual compatibility. An alternative might be a horse which one day you ride out with. You must take care not to make the horse reluctant to leave the yard.

Godiva, rescuing damaged horses can be very rewarding but it can also be an exercise in despair. One bad incident can put the horse back for weeks.
You will become the best advisor as to how your horse is to be treated but try not to make the horse utterly dependent upon you - things happen in life.
All horses have to make their peace with a range of humans.

Best of luck and enjoy the situation. If you get it right, the horse will bond with you for life.

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Thanks for the great advive Barry! The farrier is coming out Monday to check her feet and the vet already floated her teeth. Currently she is stalled with about an hour or two of turnout a day. In her stall she has a hay net that is never empty so she has the choice to eat or not. My vet recommend more hay then gray for slow recovery and this fine by me. She currently is on safe choice with 2 1/2 scoops twice a day and all the costal she wants. Right now we are just working on ground manners since all I know is that her last race was in March this year and after she was used as a trail horse.

I will probably start a new thread which will show her progress weekly. Going out today to work with her weather permitting since it loves to rain in New Orleans.

Thank you all for the advice! I have ridden and owned healthy horses but this is my first experience with the opposite.
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Godiva - careful what you feed - you don't want to pump up a thorobred with heating food like oats. Start the in hand work as soon as possible.

Ex racers have been trained to gallop in a straight line by a small guy sitting on a tiny saddle. For most purposes they are virtually unbroken and they will have to be trained from scratch as though they are unbacked.
'Racing' is another word for 'semi-controlled bolting'.

Rarely are they horses for novices.

It is imperative that your horse walks in hand, on a loose lead rope, at your shoulder, to your pace. It must: whoah, stand, back up and turn at your command ASAP. When you collect it from the paddock, it must drop its head to receive the bit (a snaffle) and the bridle - or the head collar.

Ex Race horses are often cheap to buy but they represent a serious challenge to handle and train. Rarely are they appropriate horses for a novice.

Ideally you should organise help NOW from a professional trainer of horses who should give you an assessment of the temperament of the horse and a programme of schooling.

Take care - that is 500 plus kilos of sharp horse - it can hurt you.
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She needs to learn to live like a horse. TBs become so attached to their grooms and the stall. Turnout is non-existant. She should be out all day altho right now it seems she has different ideas about that. Instead of graining her in the stall, when she gets anxious in the pasture, grain her there so it takes on a more pleasant association. It may not work at first but repetition is key. Don't set it close to the fence. If she still gets anxious at least she'll move back and forth which aids digestion. If she's in a box stall, use the small mesh hay nets and hang them in opposing corners to encourage her to move back and forth. The small mesh makes them nibble at the hay which also aids digestion as it remains in the gut longer. Faster in, faster out. It will also reduce your hay bill. The horse may not have been malnourished but just a bit skinny. How many skinny people are accused of being malnourished or not eating enough when they can out eat everyone else and not put on an ounce.

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Diva has come a long way and showing a lot of "spunk" I will post pictures of her later tonight since I am still at work. She is off to the trainer next month for 90 days for horsey boot camp.
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So glad to hear of a great update! Can't wait to see pictures, well done!
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post #20 of 20 Old 09-20-2012, 12:33 PM
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feed her corn oil because it is high in calories which will help her gain weight and it will make her shiny :)

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