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post #1 of 9 Old 12-14-2011, 04:02 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation HELP! Strangles outbreak on livery yard, how can i protect my pony?

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I have recently found out that some horses on the yard, where I am currently keeping my pony, have strangles. The yard has around 20 horses and ponies on it and there are currently 2 horses with it so far. However some have started with the same symptoms. I believe this outbreak was due to a lack of stable management as people have been using the same persons tack on other horses. As well as this, new horses have been brought on to the yard in recent weeks and then sold on. One of the carrier horses is two stables away from my pony, she is 18 years old. Is she at a high risk of contracting the illness? And what can I do to prevent her from getting it?. Any info or advice is much appreciated thank you!
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post #2 of 9 Old 12-14-2011, 05:02 PM
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she very much is in danger of getting it. In fact I'd be really surprised if she didn't have it now. You say a horse that has it is two stalls away? If that's so I'd suggest quarantining your horse as well. Check out the website below. Good luck =)

http://www.horses-and-horse-informat...196stran.shtml
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Has she been vaccinated? Vaccination will not necessarily prevent the illness, but it can lessen the severity of the symptoms. Even now it may not be too late. Call your vet to see.
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I have two thoughts. Firstly, at age 18 she has probably already been exposed to it earlier in her life. If that is the case she probably has some antibodies to it that might help her not to get it again.

And second thought, I read an article in The Horse magazine talking about strangles vaccines and I got the impression the vaccine is rather risky. While horses that had been exposed before did get more antibodies from the vaccine, all the horses that had NEVER been exposed before actually came down with strangles from being vaccinated. A couple of them even died (I think they were weanlings).

So I personally decided that I would never vaccinate any of my horses for strangles (unless my vet strongly advised it for some reason). But it's not a safe, effective vaccine like other vaccines we give our horses. It's basically exposing them to strangles, which is what the contaminated horses are doing anyway.

So I would ask your vet what he/she advises. Your best bet might be just holding tight and trying not to come into contact with contaminated equipment.
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Thank you very much, your comments are really appreciated !.
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Disinfect all tack right away, and do it regularly, just to be safe. And, isn't the horses infected going to be put into quarantine? If not, I would leave the barn as soon as the vet says it is safe and the horses have been over it for a while. All good barns should have quarantine area for when new horses come to prevent this and for if something like this does happen.

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We also do not use the Strangles Vaccine unless a horse is going to a sure strangles exposure place and you have 3 to 4 weeks for them to build up the immunity. Even one vaccination will cause them to have a lesser case as will previous cases or exposure. Both Strangles and the Vaccine can cause Purpura Hemoragica which is even worse than Strangles. I have known 2 horses that died from the Vaccinations and they died from Purpura.

If a horse gets Strangles and it gets VERY, VERY sick, we start them on antibiotics. If you start antibiotics, you cannot stop giving them until they are 100% over it. We have had to treat several horses over the years and have taken a CBC blood test to determine if the white count had dropped back to normal before stopping the antibiotics.

If they do not get very sick, it is better to let it run its course and let them get over it.

By the time they get the snotty nose and slimy drools, they have already passed it to the neighboring horses and horses sharing feed or water tubs.

Monitor temperatures daily. An elevated temperature usually means a horse is getting it.

Moving the horse now, will probably just spread it further.
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i'd just like to make it clear, that it's no ones fault!! And the yard manager is doing everything possible to fix it, sorry for any offence caused.
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I agree with everyone else's posts.

If she is older or already vaccinated it might lessen the symptoms and severity of it.

*DO NOT GIVE THE STRANGLES VACCINE AFTER EXPOSURE!* It is very dangerous to do as now she is already developing a high level of antibodies after exposure and giving the vaccination could tip her over the edge and she could develop Pupura Hemorrhagica.

I actually asked my vet to give my horse a Strangles TITER when he was moving to a barn that required the vaccine (a test of the antibodies he had against the disease before giving the vaccination IN).

He ended up having enough antibodies (because of age) that it would have been dangerous to give him the IN vaccination. So she actually gave me a letter saying the horse had sufficient antibody levels to repel the disease and not be contagious. If I gave him the vaccination without the titer, he could have developed Purpura Hemorrhagica/******* Strangles)

As for other ways to prevent further exposure...

If they have an area to quarantine the healthy horses I would do that. Disinfect stalls,brushes,buckets,hoses that they water the horses with,scrub brushes for buckets,stall forks any commonly shared items. PITA!

Post a sign outside the barn door for any visitors that come by the barn (they could bring it back to their horses or barn).

Provide a bucket with bleach water in it or chlorohexidine to disinfect shoes after leaving the barn and have a change of clothes (if leaving to another barn) and shoe/boot covers like used at hospitals.

A lot of people forget to disinfect commonly used items for all the stalls like : hose,stalls forks,grain buckets. Etc.

However IMHO. It is too late and she has already been exposed. Snorting helps the organisms travel long distances.

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