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    01-17-2010, 02:37 AM
HELP with thrush!!!!!!!!!!

I got Jazz's feet trimmed today by the Healthy Stride Clinic, and it turns out that he has thrush. And not just the beginning stages. I can't believe that I missed it - I feel like SUCH a horrible horse person! I can't sleep. I am officially freaking out.

Okay, so here's the situation: I have Jazz on lease, and I've had him for about three weeks. He was on lease to another person before he came to me (family illness caused her to not have time for him), and she didn't take very good care of him, so I'm pretty sure he must have had it when he first came to me. So, if I wasn't an idiot, I would have noticed it then, and it would be easy to treat, but since I apparently AM a complete idiot, it has now progressed for another three weeks.

He has it in all four feet. It is worse in the two fronts, and particularly in his right front. It has actually eaten away a bit of the frog on the right front. They told me to mix brown sugar and iodine to make a molasses-like texture, and pack it into his feet. I've been reading all of my horse books on the sections about thrush, and it says to use that if the thrush is still in the initial stages (dark coloring on the sole or around the frog), but if the frog has started to degenerate, to talk to your vet about a stronger treatment.

I'll be at the barn tomorrow, and I can't sleep until I know what I should do to treat this. Feel free to rip me to shreds for this, I deserve it - but please also tell me what to do!
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    01-17-2010, 02:51 AM
You stated that YOU did not keep him in the nasty conditions that caused this. You deserve no ripping.

There are a lot of thrush medicines at your local tack shops. My mom's mare used to get thrush a lot (mom wouldn't clean the stalls very well when I was gone ). I just put the paste on, put gauze over and taped it onto her hoof with duct tape.

Good luck and since it's starting to eat away at frog I'd have a vet look it over and prescribe something.
    01-17-2010, 02:57 AM
The best thing I have ever used myself and heard of is instead of using gauze use a small size baby diaper, wrap it around the hoof and the little sticky tabs help keep it in place and then wrap it in duct tape.
    01-17-2010, 11:49 AM
Clean the hoof as often as you can. 2-3 times a day and right after you clean it keep him in clean area for some time (in round pen, in stall, just walk him). The oxygen kills the thrush as far as I know, so it should help. Also you can get some thrush medicine as suggested. The best one I found is thrushbuster, but it's sticky, so better use gloves when put it on.
    01-17-2010, 11:58 AM
So it will sound weird but I have never found anything that works better. There is a product out there that is used for cow mastitis, It is called TODAY and it comes in 10 or 12 syryinge type applicators. You many need to go through a couple boxes because depending on how much you use on each food you may need to use more than one. I get it a tsc or farm and fleet here but it is a pretty common product. I started using it and now everyone at my barn uses it for there own horses it they have a bit of thrush going on. GOOD LUCK. Doesn't sound at all like it is your fault. You know about it now and are fixing the problem.
    01-17-2010, 12:03 PM
Once it gets to the frog, I've found boots help for soaking the hooves. You might try making sure the hooves are very clean and applying an thrush medication plus Tinactin because Ahtlete's foot is similar to thrush, actually, and this is an additonal helpful treatment.
Thrush cannot survive in clean and dry areas. The frog will take time to heal, at any rate.
Don't feel bad. I had a mare on pasture that kept getting it over the summer, and she was on acres of land - minimal wet areas.
    01-17-2010, 05:28 PM
Many on the East Coast are having terrible thrush problems because of the very wet year. My paddock has been wet all year, and the horses are suffering. I have treated with several things this year.

Understanding what thrush is, and is not, will help. It is a bacterial infection, but can also have fungi feeding off of what the bacterial infection kills. Try searching for more info on the cause.

DO WASH YOUR HANDS and nails after cleaning the hoof. You will have a zoo of microbes on your hands after cleaning. You don't need to go overboard. Simple soap and hot water will clean your hands. Yes, I wash twice.

There are many commercial products out there. Iodine will kill the infection, but also stains your hands and shoes. It will also dry the frog out. Another poster suggested TODAY. I use the the cousin to this, Go-Dry. Both are mastitis anti-biotics. They come in a tube that is useful for getting into the crack that forms between the heel bulbs. Go-Dry is cheaper. Some farriers will mix a triple anti-biotic cream (human generic) and Lotramin 50/50, and put it in the empty Go-Dry tubes. It is rather thick, and harder to press out, but it works. After trying to mix this, I went back to the purchased.

There are several products like CopperTox that are copper-based. They do work, but can harm the coronet band if they drip onto the hairline. ThrushBuster is iodine based (I think). White Lightning is preferred by some. It is more complicated to use, but works well.

Here's the bottom line. Treat it every day, and don't stop until the frog has grown out. Air and dryness will help. It's a pain, but the horse will be healthier for it. You are not alone, and aren't the first horse owner to not notice the thrush right away. Just keep treating until it's gone.

I'll make one more suggestion that I am playing with now...I use Eqyss Micro-tek shampoo full strength on the entire hoof, let it sit for at least five minutes, and rinse very well. Then use the Micro-tek spray every day. It helps to heal as well as kill. The active ingredient is an antimicrobial that is safe for humans and skin.
    01-17-2010, 05:51 PM
Originally Posted by deineria    
Once it gets to the frog, I've found boots help for soaking the hooves. You might try making sure the hooves are very clean and applying an thrush medication plus Tinactin because Ahtlete's foot is similar to thrush, actually, and this is an additonal helpful treatment.
Thrush cannot survive in clean and dry areas. The frog will take time to heal, at any rate.
Don't feel bad. I had a mare on pasture that kept getting it over the summer, and she was on acres of land - minimal wet areas.
I mix the athletes foot cream mixed with a generic triple antibiotic cream like Neosporin. Apply it with a syringe right down into the clean crevices. I have found this works better than any thrush medicine. Plus an apple cider vinegar spritz every day from a spray bottle.
Its what Pete Ramey recommends as "Pete's goo"
One of our members and my farrier has a nice prevention and treatment article on her web site. Take a look September Tip of the Month

My Pete's goo syringe I keep around all the time. It makes it much easier to get the medi up into the frog crease
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    01-17-2010, 11:54 PM
Okay, so this is what I did to it today: I picked out the hooves, then scrubbed them with warm water and mild soap (Ivory), rinsed them, dried them, then mixed up some Betadine and sugar, and poured it over the frogs, being very careful not to drip it on my shoes, let it touch my hands, or run down onto his white markings. Of course, some got on the ground, but I don't care.

Clean the hoof as often as you can. 2-3 times a day
I'm boarding him, and (though I wish I could) I can't get to the barn to treat it every day. I'm there 5 days a week - will that be enough?

Also, I've been wondering if I should switch him to turnout only in the dry lots for a week or so? Lots of his pasture is very muddy right now, and unfortunately also full of manure, so I'm thinking that is not the greatest place for his thrushy feet for 4 hours a day.

I was freaking myself out last night about it, but his thrush doesn't actually seem that bad. Which is weird since some of the frog has degenerated. But today it actually didn't seem to smell, and I couldn't find any discoloration of the sole, or any black gunky stuff down the sides of the frog. The cleft doesn't seem to be affected, and there aren't any cracks forming between the heel bulbs or anything. In fact, the only odd thing is that his frog seems sensitive to the touch, and slightly discolored.
    01-18-2010, 01:32 PM
I can see the Betadine or iodine but I wonder what the sugar does. I googled it and found several places that recommended this treatment but does anyone know what the sugar does?

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