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    09-05-2009, 04:04 AM
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Yearling
Her feet are still tender, help?

So its been about 2 months and Willow's feet still seam to be a bit tender, she's fine on sand or soft dirt but anything else and she has a hard time. My farrier said she has really good feet... anyone know of some good products I can use on her feet to make them a little harder? I have been putting turpentine on them to make them grow faster and some anti fungi/ moisturizer on them as well. Along with thrush X on her back feet but the thrush is pretty much gone now. So anyone know anything else I can try? I wanted to get shoe's on her when my farrier was out a few weeks ago but he thought it best to just trim her this time and wait a few months then see about shoes... but its going to be winter here pretty soon. I would really like to get her hoof boots but I can't find any used one's the right size and really can't afford to buy brand new ones... :-\
     
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    09-05-2009, 08:41 AM
  #2
Foal
It can take a long time for a hoof to transition from shoes to barefoot. Her feet will adapt first to the environment she lives in. So if she's turned out on grass and ridden in sand mostly that's what her feet will adapt to. To ride on rocks or anything other than grass and sand you'll probably need hoof boots for awhile, possibly forever. Where you live plays a role too. If it's mostly wet there the transition will take alot longer than if it's dry hard-packed ground. My guy has been barefoot for a year and I still need hoof boots to go anywhere but it really doesn't bother me cause I know they're healthier for his hooves and they have WAY more traction on slippery surfaces than shoes do.

I use Easyboot Gloves cause they're easy to put on and take off and they STAY ON. I've ridden him through mud up to his knees and they didn't come off. He's been through water and really rocky terrain and they didn't come off. They're also the cheapest boot out there. They're $47.95 a piece from Valley Vet and they're sold individually instead of in pairs because they have to fit each foot "like a glove" so measure carefully! Easyboot Glove EasyCare, Inc (Equine - Horse Tack Supplies - Sports Medicine - Barefoot Boots)

As far as making her feet harder, only time and proper nutrition can do that.
     
    09-05-2009, 11:18 AM
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As far as making her feet harder, only time and proper nutrition can do that. Today 03:04 AM
Add in the correct trim plus a couple other things. Good Trimming, Nutrition, Conditioning, Protection while transisitioning, and Time.

A couple of my horses have had long transition times. One was sound on gravel when I got him, but his hooves were badly contracted. Once we got him trimmed to optimize hoof health he was still tender because he could feel his feet. Boots came in very handy. Recently his boots were a bit too snug so he went barefoot on the gravel road and was barely bothered. My 30 yr old appy had what farriers called great feet, but he was always sooooooo tender on gravel. He walks down the road with barely a twinge now, not that he goes often. ;)

Twilight, what size are your horses hooves? Approximately 2 shoeings normally equal the price of a pair of boots and the boots last longer. ;)
     
    09-05-2009, 05:44 PM
  #4
Green Broke
Durasole seems to work well. It helped my mare some. You can buy it at Valley Vet. Just 2-3 drops on the bottom of each foot.

STOP with the turpentine. That won't help foot growth.

What really helped my mare grow good feet was a diet of quality grass hay, 2-3 lbs of Alfalfa Pellets, 1/2 cup of flax (I use BioFlax20 or NutraFlax from horsetech.com), and a good vitamin supplement (GrandVite, Select II, NutriPlus++, etc.) with some Apple Cider Vinegar to mix it all up (work your way up to 1/2 cup daily). NO other feed or grains. The foot that is growing in is SO strong, almost shiney, and a lot harder. Her soles and frogs are a lot healthier too.
     
    09-05-2009, 06:31 PM
  #5
Weanling
You really do need to stop the turpintine...that can actually cause hoof damage with extended use...I didnt know that till recently and im looking for a new hoof product myself.

My gelding has nice feet but in the winter they tend to get dry so I need a moisturizer. Im about to try 'tough stuff' coupled with corona ointment. Tough stuff is good for hardering and promoting growth but its not made to be put on the sole frog or the balls of the heals...that where im going to put the corona ointment.

Once I try it ill tell you how well it works. My gelding tends to get tender at times too and is better when his feet are moisturized. He hasnt been tender in forever since I've been applying stuff lol I hhave been using hoof heal 5 in one all over his feet but im stopping due to the turpintine in it.
     
    09-05-2009, 11:49 PM
  #6
Yearling
Yea I decided to switch to just tough stuff (i have heard a lot of good stuff about it although its a little pricey) and hoof flex for a moisturizer. The farrier looked at her a few weeks ago and said he feet look really good and just need to grow a little more. Also I rescued her so im almost positive she has never had shoe's considering they couldn't see to even keep up on trimming her. She wears size 2, I have been working overtime at work but I have been helping my mom with all her bills she got behind on (even though she makes way more than me) so that's where a lot of my money goes, but I am going to try and get her some boots, not this check but maybe my next.
     
    09-06-2009, 09:27 AM
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She wears size 2,
LOL I should have been more specific. I meant for you to measure them as if for boots. Toe to heel buttress and across the widest spot side to side after a fresh trim. Someone may have some older boots they would part with and that's what you will need to know to get the correct size boots. ;)
     
    09-06-2009, 07:31 PM
  #8
Green Broke
Google "Horse Boot Swap". There is a page with LOADS of people buying/selling used horse boots. I sold my last pair of Old Mac's G2 boots that way.
     
    09-06-2009, 11:13 PM
  #9
Yearling
There's a huge used tack sale next week end so i'm going to see what I can find. I have some issues with ordering stuff online, I really don't like it... but i'll check it out
     
    09-07-2009, 12:29 AM
  #10
Trained
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Originally Posted by Twilight Arabians    
So its been about 2 months and Willow's feet still seam to be a bit tender, she's fine on sand or soft dirt but anything else and she has a hard time.
Know some of my responses are echoing what's been said, but...
I'm presuming 'it's been 2 months' is since shoes? That's not long. 'Transitioning' can last for anywhere from no time to years, depending on the horse, the environment, diet, etc. There's a lot more to it than just time. The environment she lives & works on, diet, nutrition, exercise and quality & frequency of trimming are all important factors. If she lives on soft ground & does most of her work on soft stuff, she will probably never develop 'rock crushing' feet. Boots, 'Sole Guard' or such are valid forms of hoof protection, for 'transition' & riding on rough ground.

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anyone know of some good products I can use on her feet to make them a little harder? I have been putting turpentine on them to make them grow faster and some anti fungi/ moisturizer
You don't want to make her feet harder, they need to be thicker, & this will only come with exercise/hoof stimulation & growth. Turpentine, formadehyde, etc are also bad for her hooves. Turps will not make them grow faster. Only good nutrition/diet & hoof stimulation will do that. Growth is more accurately measured in miles than time - the more exercise, the more they grow. On that note tho, if the horse is not fully comfortable/sound on certain surfaces, she won't be using her feet correctly, won't land heel first if her heels are sensitive, for eg, so make sure you provide her with adequate protection so that she can get that exercise comfortably.

Anti-fungal treatment is definitely a good idea if she has thrush/seedy toe, as this can inhibit rehab & cause tenderness. If she no longer has infection, good, well balanced nutrition & good frog stimulation/circulation *should* help to prevent it reoccuring. 'Moisturiser' is unnecessary & unhelpful. If you're in a very dry environment, ensuring her hooves get a good soak in water every day or few is helpful tho. If her feet appear scaley & over dry, this is likely due to diet/nutrition issues, possibly as well as the turps treatment.

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I wanted to get shoe's on her when my farrier was out a few weeks ago but he thought it best to just trim her this time and wait a few months then see about shoes...
I'm all for bare feet, believe it's far better for the horse, but I suggest you do some research, as it's definitely a subject to go into with your eyes wide open. As I've mentioned, there's a LOT more to healthy, sound feet than just whether or not to shoe. Pete Ramey hoof care heals founder in horse’s navicular disease farrier & Mayfield Barehoof Care Centre front page are 2 great sites to begin your education.

Why did your farrier think it was best to wait a few months for shoes? Has she had probs in the past that he wants to get her over first? Perhaps he doesn't like the idea of shoes either & is hoping you'll come to the barefoot conclusion within a few months...??
     

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