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        01-16-2013, 08:48 PM
    Hi alot of advice needed please !

    Hi im new on site as I could really do with help with my Mare

    Iv had her since October, she was a rescue, wasnt unhealthy but was going to meat man and was left all her life basically running with a herd ( did have feet done )

    She's a almost 17hh TB 10 year old un broken..
    I started work with her before I had her and fell in love.. she's a star!
    Abit of a mental case! But a star :)

    So... her father is Primitive Rising, if you Google him he's pretty good ( DNA tested on passport etc )
    So I was really hoping for foal this spring
    ( to keep for myself not sell )
    But it doesn't look like im going to be able to now..

    My problem is her back side will not gain weight!
    Her hind quarters look disgusting :(
    Yet her front end looks more like a ID then a TB, ( she has no ribs showing no spine showing she looks in very good weight everywhere but her bum! ) she has had vet out this month for injections and abscess and he didnt say much just what im feeding her is correct, but she's been like this since October time and its really getting me down, if I took her to a stallion they would think she's neglected!
    It saddens me to look at her but she's very healthy and happy (Apart from abscess which is now gone just waiting for hole to heal )
    She's fed cond mix, apple alfalfa and sugar beat & 2 really large hay nets of a night time
    I have had lots of horses in past , 6 at one time once and have never had a problem with weight if anything they have all been fat!
    But it really does look like she's stole the hind quarters off a Arab or something...

    And I do understand that they have to be worked to gain muscle and get a decent looking bum but this is not down to lack of exercise as its just too small! Iv not seen nothing like this before

    And its not a conformation fault.

    If anyone has any advice at all id be very grateful :(

    Thankyou... from a very stressy Mare owner :)

    Not sure how to add photos :(
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        01-17-2013, 06:34 AM
    Green Broke
    Not sure what's wrong with an Arabs hind end? Do you have a picture? Without seeing what you are it's really hard to give advice?
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        01-17-2013, 06:42 AM
    Green Broke
    Why not train the horse you have now instead of breeding more ?
    Probably need to do a fecal count see what the parasite level is. Made need vet level deworming. Other than that decent hay and grass and exercise.
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        01-17-2013, 07:32 AM
    Hi & welcome. Yes, I'm with Joe that I'd at least wait until she's reasonably trained before thinking about foals. I'd also want to get to the bottom...pardon the pun! of the problem, in case it's something that will cause her problems with foaling.

    You say it's not conformational - not sure what that means to you or what makes you rule it out. A lot of horses end up with very weak hind ends and end up with drafty type chests from pulling themselves around instead of using their hind. But that she's unbroken, but she could still have injured herself or have a congenital weakness...

    So, agree with Poppy we need more info to do more than speculate & sounds like you both may benefit from a good bodyworker checking her out. Also agree with Poppy on Arab's backsides!
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        01-17-2013, 08:57 AM
    Eeek theres nothing wrong with an arabs behind but imagine it on a draught front? I was just using it as an example to try explain how bad it looks.

    As for getting her trained before breeding from her, she is trained..
    Iv been doing her the monty roberts way with join up etc, I should of said this before she's perfect now lunges long reins etc and only been out of that type of work for about 3 weeks with abscess but even before abscess it wasnt getting any bigger :(

    I do not think she will ever take to a rider though but that is not why I had her.
    Riding etc does not bother me (yes id love to get back in saddle)
    But I had her for her not the riding part..

    She has not got worms she's on a very strict worming programme,
    Id put a picture up if I knew how if someone could tell me how?
        01-17-2013, 09:15 AM
    Green Broke
    Just because she is on a worming schedule does not mean she doesn't have worms.

    You go to the go advanced then down a bit you can add a file attachment. Browse for the file on your computer then upload it.

    Sounds like perhaps she just needs to learn to work from behind. Why do you not think this horse can be ridden?
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        01-17-2013, 09:28 AM
    She don't have worms.. this was first thing that was sorted when I had her..

    Why she can not be ridden because she's 10 and she has given me all her trust and she's such a star I don't want to ask it of her really ..
    I'm just going to look after her and let her be a horse..

    I do not wish to ride her anyway I just want to know why she's not gaining weight on her bum..

    I'll try upload piccy now :)
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        01-17-2013, 09:36 AM
    Green Broke
    Sorry but I don't see anything wrong with breaking an older horse.
    She may be 10 and she may have given you all her trust but so has my youngster and after a heck of a lot more trauma than your mare.

    By not breaking her all you are doing is ensuring that if anything ever happened to you she will be going straight back on the meat wagon.

    As for the backside - Correct work helps but some horses just have pathetic backends
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        01-17-2013, 09:49 AM
    Before you do anything make sure she hasnt got any previous injuries causing pain in her pelvis or spine. But if she's all clear, look up some videos on engaging the hind end, use those for a month or two, and see if it helps. My friends tb has a HUGE pelvic vertebrae, and the only thign thta helps is engaging the hind and a TON of hill work. Walking up, walkng down, trotting up, trotting down, repeat a LOT. Hope it helps :)
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        01-17-2013, 09:53 AM
    Green Broke
    Originally Posted by faye    
    sorry but I don't see anything wrong with breaking an older horse.
    She may be 10 and she may have given you all her trust but so has my youngster and after a heck of a lot more trauma than your mare.

    By not breaking her all you are doing is ensuring that if anything ever happened to you she will be going straight back on the meat wagon.

    As for the backside - Correct work helps but some horses just have pathetic backends

    Yeap, I broke my mare when she was 18 and she was a real rescue.

    Also to add when I got her I was told the rescue had her worm problem all sorted too. Haha she was infested with encysted worms. So once again doesn't mean she doesn't have worms.

    But also agree that she should be checked for pain as well.
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