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post #1 of 13 Old 12-25-2011, 12:30 PM Thread Starter
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Hock injury, advice? *pictures*

In my fourteen years of horse ownership I have never had a horse with a cut of this size so, any advice beyond what we are doing?
Note, The mare is pregnant so penicillin isn't an option. Also note, her back end isn't the easiest to handle as she had a rough first five years of life (she is six). One more note, The vet was called out and he said little more than he cannot stitch it due to its location.

The day of -

Three days later (today - pictures taken before it was cleaned)

She was stalled for the first two days and has been turned out yesterday/today. She doesn't let you handle her back legs the greatest so I haven't been able to wrap it. She will let me get a few splashes of water on it but not much more, no scrubbing with a cloth and no cold hosing.
I did use betadine the first day. Since then we have been splashing water and applying lavender oil and yarrow powder three times daily.
The vet said tucoprim powder was safe for her and she will be on that for a few more days.

Suggestions? I am worried because it seems to be opening more than closing but this is of course do to the little bit of swelling. And it has gone done since yesterday.
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post #2 of 13 Old 12-25-2011, 01:15 PM
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What about Vetericyn? alot of people like it. We use it on Beau...

how did she injure herself, do you know????
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I agree with beauseant, definitely use vetricyn. Its quick and easy to spray on if your mare is very good about her hind end being handled and it works great.
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Looking at the "foam" that's coming out it must be deep! I had a horse with a puncture wound about 3.5 inches deep. I used a straw for AI'ing cut off and put on the end of a syringe. Filled it with Vetericyn and flushed the wound once or twice a day and never put her on Tucoprim which as you know is spendy.
But since she doesn't seem to let you want to clean it thoroughly you may want to put her on it.

I am no vet, just a suggestion...
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As she is hard to work with you need something that will work with minimal handling. Rather than the hose or splashing water make up a strongish solution of saline - a tablespoon salt to a pint of previously boiled water. Put into a pump spray bottle - the best are the sort that you pump up to get under pressure usually holds 2 litres or more (sort used for weedkiller) - if it has a wand then even better as you can work from a distance. Keep flushing the wound for as long as she will allow you.

Then the best treatment ever is 'Activated Manuka Honey' squish a large lump of it onto the wound. It generates its own Hydrogen Peroxide which will get into the wound and kill off the bugs. The photos below are of a friends horse after a dissagreement with a gate catch. From the third day it was treated with honey and the horse was back in work within five weeks. Initially treated by vet - stitches burst on day three and she then changed to treating with honey.
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Oh wow I would have a mild heart attack if I came out to that shoulder! But what an amazing job it did healing.
I never even thought of the Vetericyn, we have some sitting in the basement.

It is very deep, the vet said its threw a bit of the tendons and tissues, nearly to the bone. I have NO idea what she hurt herself on. It looks like something sheet metal or a t-post would do but they have none in the pasture. I did not even have the stalls open as an option for them to go in that day. (Not that there is anything to get hurt on in the barn either) We walked the pasture several times and she had a blood trail going almost everywhere but nothing to get hurt on.

Thanks for the replies & advice.
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post #7 of 13 Old 12-28-2011, 02:25 AM
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The wound you are showing of the hock is in a very bad location - both because of the motion which will keep opening the wound & because of the anatomy; there are a few synovial structures in that location which could be affected (similar to joints) - a tarsal sheath & the gastrocnemius bursa. This is a very serious injury, so if your vet didn't recommend referral to a specialty hospital/equine surgeon, then you need to find one & take the horse there.
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I have been worried about how this stupid thing was suppose to heal since she did it! Its a terrible location, seems rather serious to me. She has been seen by one vet, I've called and sent pictures to several others. Everyone says the same thing, it cannot be stitched shut. Keep it clean. Its a 50/50 on if they suggest wrapping it or leaving it. The flash of the camera makes it look more angry and gross than it is, its reasonably clean for what she allows me to do. She is actually fine with all of the back end handling now and would let me wrap it but I don't think that is a good idea at this point. And of course, now that she'll let me scrape off the gunk that streamed down her leg... its so frozen on that its a fruitless effort. However who cares about a little dried blood when the wound itself will not close, it just keeps getting BIGGER - AS I SAID to a number of vets who keep telling me "it will heal"........ She hobbles around quite well and keeps quiet, being such a good patient. Short of hauling her to MSU, my local vets will not do anything or will not even bother coming out.

It IS healing, but what is it going to look like when its threw growing from the inside out....

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You don't want to wrap it anyway as it's in a bad spot for wrapping and unless you can change the wrapping 2 to 3x a day, all you would do is trap bacteria. We took in a mare with a similar injury and she healed up perfectly. It would be great if you could flush it at least once per day, but if you can't handle her, can you take her to a vet who can safely check for closed pockets in the wound? That's the main thing I'd be concerned about at this point. If the wound stops draining on it's own then it can do more damage than has already been done.

I'm assuming that she is up to date on her tetanus shot?
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Yes, she was up to date on her tetanus shot and received another the day of her injury. She is more than happy to comply with a spray bottle with warm saline, water and lavender or whatever we decide to rise it out with. I flush it like this three times daily.
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