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post #1 of 32 Old 01-26-2010, 08:24 PM Thread Starter
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Honest advice Needed.

I wanted to give something to the woman who runs the stable I've been keeping my horse at. I've been boarding there for almost a year and at first, things were great. I paid the woman extra to feed my large mare more and things seemed fine. There were times when the stall was a little messy and it never bothered me to clean it.
For over 2 months now I have noticed a serious decline. On a personal note, the barn owner has been a friend for the entire time boarding there. She's even on my facebook and we're hung out several times.
I don't know where I stand with her. I first brought up being unhappy when I arrived to find a bunch of trash--empty bags of pet food, and a chewed up carrot bag, which scared me as my horse could have eaten the carrot bag, simply because it probably smelled like carrots.
I told her I had to pick trash out of my horses's stall and her answer was "Yeah I saw that this morning before I left for work."
So the second time I metioned something was when I noticed my horses getting skinny. She said something as well, and I figured she would fix the problem.
Now at this point, the stalls are being neglected, not cleaned for what appears to be days as the stall is really saturated with urine when I arrive to see my horse.
The hay has switched, no more oats in the hay. The other boarders start talking about it as well and we all feel the same way, the hay is not suitable for our horses.
I call the owner at this point and my exact words are-- I had a really bad time last night when I went and seen my horse. My stall was wet, the food looks terrible...
She assurred me she would fix things, so I tried to be nice and hopeful.
The next day she seemed concern, but as the days passed, it just seemed to get worse.
Now I am picking bailing twine out of my horse's stall on a daily basis, her stall is always wet , and she appears to be starving all the time. The hay is just gross.
Now I am posting this anon on a message board without any of her info as I want to remain somewhat civil, however I want her to know how and why I am leaving. Her entire barn has cleared out and the people left have expressed their disgust. I can only come to the conclusion that she just does not realize severity of the situation, and does not understand why people are upset.
Here is the picture of our horses, and the hay, and the stalls. Let me know if you think I am overreacting about this and if I am being foolish. This situation has caused me a great deal of sadness as I can't believe a friend would treat my horse like this.

This is the disgusting puddles in her stall.

This is the hay.

this is one horse.

this is the other horse. Part draft.

btw, the pics are after we clean the stalls
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post #2 of 32 Old 01-26-2010, 08:44 PM
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It's definitely time to pack up and leave. No need to exchange nasty words just get yourself and your precious horse out of that situation.

Also you could always contact your local animal control and give them a reason to check out the barn. No need to give your name.
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post #3 of 32 Old 01-26-2010, 08:53 PM
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My question is, why are any of you still at this facility, if its so deplorable? If she doesn't have any business, her practices, or lack thereof, will be a moot point. If all of you have said something to this BO, and nothing has been done, the simple answer is leave. Don't worry about hurting "your friend', obviously she is not one if the horses that you are paying her to take care of are not taken care of. Those horses don't look starved to me, I can see the barest hint of ribs in the gray, but its hard to tell. The part draft's hips do seem to protrude slightly also, but again, its hard to tell because of the angle. It would be better if we had before/after pictures to go by..... The first picture is too small to really see anything other than dark stuff and light stuff.

If she owns horses of her own, continue taking pictures of the conditions with a digital camera over a course of a couple weeks--make sure to include date and time stamps on these photos. Take pictures of the stall conditions, pasture conditions, conformation-type pictures of the horses and anything that may be of concern....festering wounds, hooves in need of a trim, etc. Document everything and then present it to your local authorities. If she doesn't have horses of her own, then I would honestly be concerned as to why you or any of the other horse owners at this place have let things go on for this long. You do genuinely sound concerned in your post, but IMO if I had to ask someone else's opinion on this situation, I'd already have my answer as to how to solve it.
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post #4 of 32 Old 01-26-2010, 09:00 PM
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Wow your story sounds JUST like a situation I was in! It is deff time to leave....your horses health is way more important! If you are paying someone to take care of your horse...and they aren't....then you are just wasting your money and putting your horse in danger. I hope everything works out for you!
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Are you sure she doesn't have something medically or mentally wrong? If she is your friend maybe you could talk to her about it more seriously and away from the barn . That doesn't mean you still have to leave your horse there but she may have something mentally wrong if she has just changed all of the sudden and not had problems before. Depending on where you live it can be hard to get quality hay with the change in weather.
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post #6 of 32 Old 01-26-2010, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by churumbeque View Post
Are you sure she doesn't have something medically or mentally wrong? If she is your friend maybe you could talk to her about it more seriously and away from the barn . That doesn't mean you still have to leave your horse there but she may have something mentally wrong if she has just changed all of the sudden and not had problems before. Depending on where you live it can be hard to get quality hay with the change in weather.
I agree 250% with this. You don't know why she has all of a sudden stopped taking good care of the animals. She could be suffering, and really struggling to provide the same level of care that she would like. Again, you can still move your horse for his sake, but don't just abandon your friend. She may need someone's help, and from the sound of it, no one else at the barn seems to care if she needs help. Just make sure she is ok, in all aspects. I hope your problem is resolved quickly and peacefully.
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^^^ agree with both of these.
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post #8 of 32 Old 01-26-2010, 10:41 PM
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Talk with your feet. You need to leave before paying this woman another cent. You've already tried expressing your concerns in a civil mannor. Yelling or getting nasty won't help things. Just leave, ASAP.

A "friend" would NOT let the stalls get that mucky or feed such bad hay. A "friend" would tell you what's going on and ask for help!! This woman is most definitely NOT your friend, and never has been. Cut her off and don't talk to her again. Block her from your facebook account after you move and count yourself lucky your horse was not injured or made ill.
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post #9 of 32 Old 01-26-2010, 10:44 PM
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I don't care what's going on in someone's personal life, there's no excuse for the horses being that thin or the stalls being that disgusting. It only takes 2 minutes to make a phone call and explain what's going on and ask for help. You're PAYING HER to feed and care for your horse. If she can't do that for whatever reason, she needs to stop taking your money (or take a LOT less) and ask you to feed and care for the horses yourself. If she really CARED for the horses or for you (as a friend or just as a human), she would have asked for help a long time ago...
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post #10 of 32 Old 01-27-2010, 12:52 AM Thread Starter
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oh no I'm out

I found a place asap and Im moving them tommorow. I just feel like maybe I should tell her or print something out for her? I dunno> It's just really confusing to me because she seemed like a real bff . Does that look like normal hay to you??
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