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post #11 of 39 Old 11-29-2011, 11:02 AM
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I will answer your question - it is highly unlikely that your english girth gave him a bruise.


Horses do not tend to be miserable for the sake of being miserable. A horse being grumpy when tacked (when they were not previously grumpy when being tacked) tends to mean there is pain some where. He associates you tacking him with pain. From what you described he also associates you asking him to move out with pain.

Your best bet it to call your vet and discuss the issues and go from there.

What you describe suggests either poorly fitting tack or ulcers to me.
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post #12 of 39 Old 11-29-2011, 11:21 AM
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Sorry, but it doesn't sounds like ulcers to me. None of the symptoms match (At least according to you) I would call your vet though. He sounds like he's just being sour to me.
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He sounds like he's just being sour to me.
Do you think horses get sour for no reason?
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Vet check (please,) clean ALL tack, saddle fit/bit check/overall tack check (always always always when they are developing muscle and changing discipline,) trainer's opinion, horse chiropractor.

That is the path I would take. In that order. I'm not sure what you have done yet but vet is the first place I'd go. Yes it'll cost you to check your horse, but it is so worth it if it's something terrible and it gives you an idea of where he's at health-wise too. Also check teeth.

Then clean all of your tack, it could be rubbing or pinching or irritating because of sweat residue or dirt or grit. I try to clean my tack as often as possible with a really thorough clean once a week.

Then get the tack evaluated for fit by an experienced saddle fitter and your bit too as it could be causing pain.

Then I would ask for an experienced trainer's option. Ask them to watch you ride, ask them to ride your horse..

Then I'd call in a chiropractor to check for anything popped out of place or sore muscles that could be causing pain.

I go through a lot of hoops and a lot of checkpoints to make sure my horse is extremely well taken care of and everything is good health wise, physically, mentally.. you name it.
You may choose to do what you like, but at minimum.. get a vet check and clean your tack and get a trainer's opinion!
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post #15 of 39 Old 11-29-2011, 04:38 PM
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use equine massage therapy and look at his tack and get it fitted properly, if he was skinny before as he plumps up his tack will fit differently
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Another person who thinks a rib is out. Which can be due to poorly fitted tack (even if the tack used to fit him, muscles change with diet and exersize). I'd have a vet out and an equine chiro or someone who does equine body work like Pressure Release Therapy (I do this some, and I can easily put ribs back...my horsey chiro can also put ribs back, but uses more force to do so)
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Sorry for the confusion. My horse is already at a average, normal, healthy weight. He was so before we even bought the English saddle, and it was fitted. He's been on the same diet for what seems like forever now. So, he can't be changing weight, as like I said, when we purchased the English saddle about one month ago he was already at good weight. And oh, it is probably just me, but I don't think it can be the tack, as he does it when I ride bareback.?.? And I use a bitless bridle. So no bit their. (Yes, that could be causing discomfort, but we had it checked.) Here is a picture I took about one week ago. He has been at this weight since the early begginings of summer.
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Run the pad of your thumb over the areas the saddle sits, including the spine, and where the panels sit. Casey did the EXACT same things, including trying to buck me off and I checked her back, and guess what, sore back. I gave her about 18 days of break and she was fine.

If your horse seems fine, could be ulcers, have the vet check it out.
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And oh, it is probably just me, but I don't think it can be the tack, as he does it when I ride bareback.?.?
Every wear a pair of shoes that is a tad too small? When you take them off your feet still hurt for a while. A poorly fitted saddle can make things sore. Things that you would not even think of. A sore back can lead to soreness in the legs because the horse is compensating for the sore back, etc. (Or the other way around, sore back because of a leg issue.)

Add that horses are cause and affect creature. Say your English saddle does not fit right and it pinches when you ask your horse to move out. You asking your horse to move out means pain. It has meant pain for however long you have been riding in the English saddle. Now your horse simply thinks that moving forward is painful.
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I did more research, and I am sadly convinced my horse has ulcers. They say some of the causes are not being able to free feed at night, and sadly, they aren't able to all the time. Ever since they came into their pasture they have ate all the grass, pulled it all up by he roots and now their pasture looks like a desert. Every so often we get them a round bale, and they devour them pretty fast, but they only get one about once ever 2 months, and its gone in about one month flat. Their diet is Alfalfa and oats in the morning, and alfalfa and oats in the evening. But it only takes like 2 hours to eat it all. So all night they have nothing to munch on. I got some prairie grass last night, and for now on, they will constantly have free food to munch on.

Please try to understand, I am under 18, still live with my parents, and are under their care/rules. I buy everything I can with the money I make working 4 hours a day, 6 days a week. Anything I absolutely need, like farrier, or food, I try to buy, but sometimes if I am out of money, they kick in. Now, I told my mom about my worries and concerns about my horse having stomach ulcers, and she refuses to hear me. She said I am making a big deal out of nothing, and he is fine. (She is not horsey, at all) She said she will not have a vet out, and that the horse is just fine. Im lost... Even if I do buy it with my own money, she refuses. Oh my word...
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