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post #41 of 101 Old 10-18-2009, 09:33 PM
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Wow! Truly amazing, great job Freedom Rider. Looks like your girl has recovered extremely well.
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post #42 of 101 Old 10-18-2009, 09:35 PM
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WOW!!!! That's amazing!!!

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post #43 of 101 Old 10-18-2009, 09:52 PM Thread Starter
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Yes....she is riding sound, but has a little bit of soreness everynow and then. I do have an equine massage therapist coming out the first week of oct..
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post #44 of 101 Old 10-18-2009, 09:53 PM
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That really is amazing what you were able to do for her! I know I must have a lot to learn because I would not have been able to do what you were able to.

I agree that barbed wire probably isn't the the best fencing option but also realize that in rural areas with large acreage it is much more affordable. Maybe you could head up some kind of fund raising job to start slowly helping the BO have the money to replace to fencing. Collections cans at humane societies and vet offices or even a horse show or rodeo to raise money. Probably would be time consuming but it was just a thought.

Great job again with your horse :)
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post #45 of 101 Old 10-18-2009, 10:00 PM
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Freedom Rider -- what a story. I think you did just fine given the situation at hand. You were aware, you were conscience of the danger, the risk, the possible pain and, yes, the finances. I commend you. I don't think I would have handled the situation as well. And I'm sorry that you and your horse went through this.

I agree with Dee completely.

Thunderhooves -- you've never seen a horse shot. I've seen a horse put down with a bullet and a horse put down with an injection. The bullet, for those that have the guts and know how to do it, is IMO far better than drugs. -- see below

Sillybunny -- If not calling a vet would get the horse taken away were you live I'm very glad I don't live there. This is long past 1984 and big brother still isn't in MY yard. That's ridiculous and I've never heard such a thing. The horse was cared for. Just because you or Bob down the street doesn't have the knowledge or nerve to do it yourself, doesn't mean that the horse was in jeopardy. Most animal owners can do some level of care. The difference here is that Freedom Rider had more nerve and resources for hands on help than for financial help. The choice was still valid.

Also, Sillybunny to say that "anyone who turns a horse out with a barbed wire fence, well shouldnt own pets PERIOD" only tells us that barbed wire is not in your demographic. My horses paddocks also don't have barbed wire, but they have only a few acres - maybe 2 or 3. When you are fencing anything over 20 acres of WORKING farm, barbed is the only way to go. And generally speaking, animals respect it. The barbed wire today is not nearly as agressive of the barbed wire from the early 1800's. That stuff, even a person had a hard time climbing over without getting cut up.

Now, here is my bullet tale: I had a horse here that no vet was going to save. He couldn't even have made it onto a trailer. In a panic, the first thing I did do was call the vet, but on the second trip to the barn, it was obvious nothing was going to save that horse. Even the vet warned me from what I told her on the phone. The vet was over an hour away. Were we going to allow our horse to suffer in pain for that hour? No way. We had the means to end his suffering; we had the experience and knowledge. The horse looked up at my husband as if to say, "Please help me" and then it was over. Just like that. No mess, no struggle. Just peace. It was terribly hard for my husband to do, but he did and if he hadn't been there, I would have done the same thing. The vet commended us and sent her condolences. No charge even though she had stopped what she was doing and had already started out to our place.

After years of living with animals, I know when it's necessary to bring out the gun. I've done it and I'll do it again when needed. I'm not waiting for the vet to "humanely" put down my animals after an inhumane hour of suffering, or weeks of pain. I take animal ownership very seriously and I accept my responsibility of caring for them and also, sadly, putting them down when they can't be helped anymore.
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post #46 of 101 Old 10-19-2009, 07:27 PM
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That is amazing you did a wonderful job! To be honest I would have probably called the vet out atleast for a look an opinion even if I were to be the one taking care of the wound from then on out...But my vet also only lives about 15 minutes away... :)

As for barbed wire...My horse is around is...always has been...has never been injured by it, only a small scratch or two on an off... Ive seen "safe" no climb fence do much worse and ive seen strait wire split a horses shoulder open...that stuff is like a razor balde if your horse runs into it...plus horses dont respect it in my experience...

As for bullet verses injection...Ive never seen one shot...but i understand if done right it is instant...but the only one ive seen put down was injected but the poor horse was so far gone that when she felt the shot I think she knew it was finally over...she just layed down took a deep breath and closed her eyes, never tensed...I was sitting there petting her the entire time and would have noticed...I doubt to many horses are that excepting of their fate though...

On a side note the horse im talking about wasnt mine...had it been my choice she would have been put out alot sooner...

Anywho back on topic...your horse looks amazing and i think you did just fine!! I understand how expensive vet bills can be...vets in my area are at a premium...I live in big texas show horse country so yea...lol

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post #47 of 101 Old 10-19-2009, 07:53 PM
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I would say you did a **** good job with her, even without a vet. Amazing!
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post #48 of 101 Old 10-19-2009, 08:02 PM
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Ok I'm going to go against the grain here re:calling the vet out. The area where this horse injured itself doesn't contain any vital tendons etc. It's a pretty meaty area, I've had a horse do similar (with a post and rail fence!), called the vet and all he said was keep it clean, purple spray to keep the flies off, bute her for the pain, and keep the wound soft with white ointment.

I don't think the OP is a bad person by any means for not having a vet attend. If the wound wasn't haemoraging then obviously the horse didn't hit any major vessels, and there is no point in stitching a wound like that as fluid would pool in the bottom of the wound and would need to be drained reguarly, causing more problems to the healing proess. Very rarely will a vet stitch a wound like that.

Clearly, the OP has doen a marvelous job of healping the healing process of this horse, as look at the last set of photos! There is barely anything there. Well done

Re: bullet vs injection. I would definately go a bullet any day. I had one put down with an injection and it was the most horrendous thing I have witnessed in a horse. It was terrible, he writhed around for a few minutes and tried to fight the drug, the vet had to give him twice the normal dose to do the job. Never again. I've had 3 horses of my own put down since, one for a shockingly broken leg, and two of old age. It was calm as can be. The horse was there one minute, picking away at lucerne, and the next it was out cold. Didn't feel a thing it was that quick. No fighting, not writhing around.
I think this notion of putting a horse down by bullet being cruel is a very young and inexperienced opinion of someone who has never witnessed an equine in such a terrible state that they are required to be 'put out of their misery'. it is a heartwrenching experience to have to make that decision, and although shooting them sounds bad, it's not. It hits their brain and brain stem depending on where the bullet is positioned, and they die immediately. Injection affects their cardiac system and nervous system resulting in increased heart rate and thus increased respiratory rate. Unless the horse has absolutely no fight in him left, he will fight this drug will all his strength, dragging the process out for much longer than neccassary as oposed to being gone in the blink of an eye.
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post #49 of 101 Old 10-19-2009, 08:23 PM
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Wow, good job dealing with that wound! I can't believe how well it healed! I hope the massge therapist can help her out and you two have many happy years ahead of you.
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post #50 of 101 Old 10-19-2009, 10:50 PM
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Wow - now those last shots are amazing! Speaks wonders for doing what you can with what you have!
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