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    04-01-2014, 08:48 PM
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Horse with allergies?

Is there anything I can do for my poor mare? Her nose is runny (clear and her eyes are clear) and is making the corners of her nostrils crack and bleed. This happens every year and I feel bad for her. The same time every year the hair starts falling off her butt as well. She is UTD on worming and at a good weight.

Its hard to see her nose but the white is her skin. Its all swollen from the constant wetness. Her overall condition is good as well as her attitude (apart from the fact she is a grumpy mare in season).







Here is a pic of the hair loss.

     
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    04-01-2014, 09:19 PM
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Have you had her tested for allergies? Are they seasonal?

My mare had very, very severe allergies, but they lead to respiratory issues and bad heaves rather than a skin condition. I had her tested and she was positive for sensitivity to almost 30 different things that she was coming in contact with every day. We started the desensitization shots to help slowly acclimate her to the things she was allergic to but it was too late at that point.

She happened to be a rare case and I had her PTS in the end because of the severity and her quality of life. The test may prove helpful to see if there is a specific allergen in her environment. It was pricey when I had it done, but it might be something to look into.

Good luck with your girl. :)
     
    04-01-2014, 09:23 PM
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I thought about it but she was not having serious reactions. She just gets the butt hair falling out and the runny nose. It has happened every spring for the past 3 years (i have owned her for 3 years lol). I MIGHT get it done but money is tight and its not life or death. I did not know they could get desensitizing shots for allergies though. I figured its pollen related. If we go riding in the wash both our eyes start running bad (and her nose more so) so no more wash riding lol.

Is there anything I could do to make her nose not so bad? Neosporin maybe?
     
    04-01-2014, 09:37 PM
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Foal
Hmm... I'm not sure. Can horses have Benadryl?

It could be a reaction to a plant that's growing in the wash. I just tend to be super paranoid after working with such a bad case. She would flare up just in the early spring when the flowers bloomed for years and then it eventually failed to go away and got worse pretty quick. I would definitely monitor it and call the vet if it gets worse, doesn't clear up, or presents itself consistently when she's away from the spot that triggers her flare ups. Again, I'm probably over thinking this :)
     
    04-01-2014, 09:49 PM
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Green Broke
If you're in the U.S. This allergy herbal blend really works.

Allergy Herbal Blend - pelletized

One of my horses developed environmental allergies after we moved to the Tennessee Valley. Tri Hist controlled the allergies but made a nut case out of him.

I discovered the Allergy Herbal Blend in 2005 and he stayed on it, seasonally, until 2013.

I didn't need it last year (nor this year SO FAR) because I discovered on accident, this horse is magnesium deficient

I put him on Ani-Med's "Remission" as he was showing very subtle signs of insulin resistance.

He'd been on Remission for around six weeks when it hit me, his allergies hadn't come to visit. Nor did they ever for the entire 2013 year.

I am not saying your mare is magnesium deficient but, being a mare anyway and Remission is not expensive, it might not hurt to buy a small tub and see how she does.

If her runny nose still doesn't clear up, then maybe try the Allergy Herbal Blend which is really pricey.

I have seen Remission in the Tractor Supply in my county but not in the TSC the next county over. You might check your TSC to see if they carry it, if you're interested
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    04-01-2014, 10:23 PM
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Im in arizona, the worst state in the us for allergies. We have ALL the trees (over 50 native and non native trees in the area flowering), flowers and grasses producing polin right now. And the LOVELY dust too! It has lasted about 3 weeks but lasted maybe 2 months last year. Never went beyond a runny nose and hair loss on her rump. If she gets hives I will get the vet, but im not spending over $100 for a runny nose (limited money and if its not life or death id rather not spend it). I don't ride in the was this time of year but it dose not mean we are away from the trees. They are mesquite trees that are the worst and there is one in front of the barn (in the pics). There are aslo big trees all around blooming with white, purple, red and yellow flowers so I don't think I could get a list of all the pollen 0.0'.

Do allergies make them nuts? That would explain ALOT! They cannot have benadryl because they metabolize antihistamines so its useless after the first dose (at least that's what one of the vets said). I won't give her a steroid shot because I saw what that did to a mare last year (founded within 2 weeks of the shot).


I will definitely look into this! V
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    04-02-2014, 01:10 PM
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Do allergies make them nuts? That would explain ALOT! They cannot have benadryl because they metabolize antihistamines so its useless after the first dose (at least that's what one of the vets said). I won't give her a steroid shot because I saw what that did to a mare last year (founded within 2 weeks of the shot).
They can. My poor mare is sensitive to grasses and gets extremely depressed and twitchy in the summer. I don't even bother doing anything with her when she gets bad. Horses absolutely can have and use Benadryl. Dose them at a rate of 25 mg/100# ground up. There is a rX dephenhydramine product out there so why not go the cheaper route and use the generic OTC version? Just like with people, it is very short lived (4-8 hours) and can make them drowsy. I use steroids because that's what gives her the most complete relief. You do have to pay attention to how you use it but taking it out of the tool box because of one incident is foolish. 2 weeks out could of been just about anything.
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    04-02-2014, 02:05 PM
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Trained
Anything cortisone can cause founder, that's why it is given as directly as possible...a heaves horse per inhaler, directly in the lungs... with caution.
Magnesium, zinc and copper have to be sufficient and in balance with each other. Flax, up to a pound daily helps with sweet itch, it might be beneficial.
Have you looked into these fly masks with the long nose pieces, reaching down below the nostrils.
For the bare bum I would first and foremost clean her udder. Dirt there can cause a lot of itch.
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    04-02-2014, 02:46 PM
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Green Broke
Desensitation only works for some people and animals , you can do the allergy shots , but it may or may not help. I myself did the shots for over 10 years and then they did not help but were a waste of my time and money.
I would research what antihistamine is good for horses. Google it. Then go ask your Vet .
As for the itchy bum, use hydrocortisone cream . For the sore nose use some plain old vaseline to protect the skin if it is getting scalded. If she is on pasture, pull her off pasture, if she is getting grass hay, change to alfalfa hay or a 3 way hay. What shampoo do you use on her, change to Ivory soap or orvus , don't use the spray that makes them all shiney show sheen type products, what Fly spray do you use,,she could be allergic to that. IF you blanket her , and washed the blanket, perhaps she is allergic to soap you use.
Look for the cause and try to delete it before medicating. Good luck
     
    04-02-2014, 08:18 PM
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I don't use show shean. Im to cheep lol! I do clean her udders quite often, and I plan on getting flax. Im going to be giving her 7oz of wild yam and raspberry leaf a day with a cup of flax (Im also to cheep for smart packs so im making my own).

I can try the fly mask. She is not a fan and at some point during the year wont let you put them off (She started to rear last year because she had enough. -_-')

She cannot go on alfalfa. I just got her off it. She gets psychotic on alfalfa and will rear, bolt,spook at her own water bucket and be wired 0.0. ADHD arabian dose not need sugar lol! She is not out on pasture but dose get turn out time in the arena with other horses. It was the same last year when she was on only alfalfa and stalled 24/7.

She is not blanked and I normally use suave shampoo. I will change the shampoo and i'll ask bo what fly spray she uses. We have just been using swat on her (small dab between on her muzzle, under her eyes and on her ears) She is not itching the bun, the hair is falling out in chunks/scabs. The first year I had her I thought it was rain rot and treated it like it was. It did nothing, I even started washing it everyday with iodine. If I put oil on it it will go away so I was thinking dry skin.


I don't like the idea of steroids because as said my vet gave a shot to a mare with bad hives. Worked for a week and gave her ANOTHER shot a week and a half later. She promptly foundered. I give my dog allergy shots but I did not know they had them for horses ether lol! Im also going to put swat under tail because she cannot lower it all the way (How far out its in the pic is as low as it gets).

I'll look into the antihistamine, and put a copper pipe in her water (a old cowboy said it helps with mare's cycles and It might be a slight source of copper for her not positive it works like that but I don't see it hurting).

I can only thing seasonal allergies because she has had the same issue in 4 very different places. When I got her she was loose on pasture, then moved her to a self care maremotel. After that I moved her to a place that fed alfalfa and had us dump the manure in piles (LOTS of flys!) then to where im at now, with arena (and some grass) turn out, 3 feedings a day and they baby your horse like their own.

Sorry if this is scattered, college teachers ate starting final projects so im frazzled.
     

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