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    07-25-2013, 05:44 AM
  #1
Foal
Unhappy Horse lame in back end, thinking up high:( dont know what to do:(

Hello,
About 8 weeks ago now I bought my mother and myself a horse each, after having terrible experiences with two previous ones we had for two months but we wont go there...
My mothers mare Rebel Scally Wag was on the truck for the longest, about 6 hours. She looked completely sound before she got on and the time before when I went to ride her.
The truck ride was really bad, he went way to fast, went over bumps way too fast and around corners. When we got both the horses off the truck they were stressed and sweaty. The following day when I went out there, I noticed that Scally was lame. The people at the agistment gave her some bute and said to see how she is in a couple of days. She was still lame so we had the vet out about a week later. He said he would put his money on it being up high and we wouldn't be riding her anytime soon and he didn't want to take our money cause he didn't think it would show anything. So we gave her rest for a month and she was still just as lame. We had him out about a week ago and he said he still doesn't want to do xrays. He said we have to look at whether we are going to keep paying for a horse we can't do what we want with. I then explained to him that all we need her for is light trail riding. My mother is 50 and she is a complete beginner all she will be doing is walking the trails maybe even a short trot when she is ready, and I guarantee nowhere in the near future. He then said well you can try stretches and light lunging slowly building up her muscles. He also said that we may find she will be sound enough for a light ride with the help of some bute. We were happy with that and started light lunging, he didn't however give us much instruction on it, e.g. How long of walking, when to start trotting and how long and when or if we canter her. He did say to in a month do some light hill work.
People at the agistment asked us what he had said and have said that they wouldn't be lunging their horse when they don't know what is wrong incase it was making something worse.
So now we don't know what to do with her.
We are looking into taking her to an equine vet hospital but it will cost a lot and with all the bad luck we have had so far with horses the vet bills, trucking bills and buying horse bills have left me completely broke and I am at Uni so I don't have a lot of money.
I was just wondering if anyone has any ideas or experiences with horses being lame up high possibly from a bad truck ride.
We were thinking maybe a strain or even tendon.
There is no swelling, heat tenderness that we can locate.
The farrier said she was very tight when he lifted her back legs and more so on her lame side.
Two days ago when I was lunging her I noticed she looked lame on both sides. As in the inside of the circle both ways. She is also quite sunken in in front on hips and behind ribs (not sure what it is called) the place where they can often be sunken in in dehydrated but she isn't.
Help would be appreciated :(
     
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    07-25-2013, 05:56 AM
  #2
Green Broke
What is an "agistment"?

You have a horse with lameness issues and you are still determined to lunge and possibly ride her but have done nothing to solve this? IF it can be solved.

If you can't afford to vet this horse properly? Put it to sleep instead of working it. Whatever is wrong you are going to damage this horse that way, ever more than it already is.

It could have all sorts of things wrong with hips, legs, spine or hooves. Vet has at this point no clue because nothing has been done to figure this out. And I would bet that is because you told the vet you can't afford to have those tests done.

Don't know where you are, but you either need to get this horse the help it needs, or put it down.

There is a good chance that the horse WAS lame/sore when you rode it, and the meds have now worn off. Or that horse got damaged in the hauling.

And if this is the 2nd batch of horses you have had trouble with, or at least the 3rd out of 4? Maybe instead of buying horses you need to invest in lessons.
     
    07-25-2013, 05:57 AM
  #3
Weanling
Could you post some pictures? Might be helpful.
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    07-25-2013, 06:19 AM
  #4
Foal
Excuse me Palomine there is no reason to be rude... if you read my post then you will see I am doing exactly what the vet told me to do... Of course I am determined to ride her she is our horse... I don't say next week, look at it that is what the vet said.
I am concerned that is not the right thing to do... which is why two days ago which is only a couple of days after the vet came out to see her and told us to do lunging I have stopped.
Another thing is maybe before judging you should get off your high horse and ask what happened with my last horses.
One I got a horse on a free three month trail, when I got him he was quite skinny, I spent a lot of money fattening him up, I got his teeth done which hadn't been done in years, once I had finished he looked amazing after a month he had picked up and the vet said I would be good to ride, he was good the first time, then he ran me into a tree and wouldn't let me ride him, I am a beginner and he was meant to be a beginners horse. Despite this I worked with him and did ground work, I had him doing tricks, running to me in the paddock, and we were progressing with riding as I was getting lessons. After all this he came up lame. I spent the money to find out what was wrong including vet callouts 140 dollars, xrays 350 dollars to find out he had navicular disease and it was brought back on. The vet advised me not to buy a lame horse and that I should give him back. I cryed for days but I could not afford to buy a horse that was lame even though I loved him. The other horse we were given, she was really skinny also and we felt sorry for her, she had supposedly been ridden heaps before and was great, we didnt focus on this as I thought I could get her re-educated, we soon found out she was a severe windsucker and it had caused her many problems. Her teeth were ground down so we were having to hard feed her as the grass isnt long enough for her teeth to grab... She put on lots of weight and was looking amazing, she howver would windsuck on the ladies property that we agist at (agist is like boarding) so we gave her to our friend, she was mums.

The vet has said she is perfectly fine at the moment for a companion horse as she moves around fine and will trot and canter around the paddock.

This is meant to be a place for people to help not to criticise, you have no idea who I am and assumed things about me without looking at the facts. I am sure there are many people on here that are helpful and caring but sorry to say I wont be coming to a forum so willingly next time for help...

I look after my horses extremely well an even the three different vets I have had out for my horses have complimented me on their improved condition.

And again, I know there hasnt been xrays but the vet said it is not lower in her leg, you can tell even by the way she holds her leg up that it is different to a lower leg lameness. Also veting it properly? I have had vet visits three times by two different vets...

She had no evidence of being lame when I rode her and it is quite unlikely that she was lame as we had a contract with the owner that if the lameness was an existing injury he would have to take her back and return our money... But the vet said it was high up and it is likely it happened on truck.

I will post some pics or even a video if I can when I go out next.. thank you Julie G
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    07-25-2013, 06:20 AM
  #5
Foal
We also had chiropractor out and he said her back was fine...
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    07-25-2013, 06:34 AM
  #6
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Palomine    
What is an "agistment"?
Agistment is the Australian version of boarding. It can be either paddock or stabled or somewhere in between.
     
    07-25-2013, 06:45 AM
  #7
Foal
Unhappy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Palomine    
What is an "agistment"?

You have a horse with lameness issues and you are still determined to lunge and possibly ride her but have done nothing to solve this? IF it can be solved.

If you can't afford to vet this horse properly? Put it to sleep instead of working it. Whatever is wrong you are going to damage this horse that way, ever more than it already is.

It could have all sorts of things wrong with hips, legs, spine or hooves. Vet has at this point no clue because nothing has been done to figure this out. And I would bet that is because you told the vet you can't afford to have those tests done.

Don't know where you are, but you either need to get this horse the help it needs, or put it down.

There is a good chance that the horse WAS lame/sore when you rode it, and the meds have now worn off. Or that horse got damaged in the hauling.

And if this is the 2nd batch of horses you have had trouble with, or at least the 3rd out of 4? Maybe instead of buying horses you need to invest in lessons.
Another thing, is please don't assume I told the vet I couldnt afford this as I did not... I asked him out the last time to do xrays and again like the first time he said and quote "I don't want to do xrays as I don't think we will find anything and I don't want to take your money. Judging by my 25 years experience I will put my money on it being up high". He then gave the lunging regime...
But I am going to stop reading your reply now as I am angry and I don't get angry...
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    07-25-2013, 07:31 AM
  #8
Yearling
Grr forum ate my post.

I hope you have calmed down.

It sounds like you previously bought skinny horses marketed to you as beginner horses, and when they got weight up, they got back their energy, and were not truly beginner friendly...

Reading your OP and other responses, you would b3 better off paying for lessons for you and your mom. Right now, you arent getting anywhere, you arent learning, you arent riding. Wouldnt it be better to lease a known healthy horse, and be able to back out if its lame or triea to run you into a tree? Think of all the wasted funds that could have been used to help you and uour mom be bettwr riders.

PS, I understand your frustration, but your comment that OF COURSE you are hellbent on riding her, because she's your horse...well maybe its the tone, but it struck me as very distasteful.
     
    07-25-2013, 08:06 AM
  #9
Foal
The other girl said all I cared about is riding and that isn't true
Yes of course I want to we'll I want my mum to he able to ride her horse but not until she is healthy enough too
I have a horse he is amazing and is perfect for he can jump, do dressage and is wonderful on trails even though the lady I got him from said she didn't know what he could do :) he is perfect

At the moment all I wanted to know if there is anyone that has had a horse come up lame from a truck or somewhere else with no heat or swelling and with the vet saying he thinks it is up high and possibly if anyone else has had the vet say do a lunging regime with no stall rest etc

I am looking into equine hospital but they are a fair distance away and you have to book and I will need my step dad to drive so he needs to give me his work schedule beforehand
I do realise I am not experienced which is why I am at an agistment with lots of people rather than just a single paddock and why I have called the vet out numerous times
And this is why I was seeking help
I know fully I could lease a horse if there were any around but there are not and my mum wants a horse of her own
Scaly is a really good horse sheis quarter horse and I feel completely safe around her
The couple of times I rode her she was great
I had lost all confidence from falling off my first one and I was fine, I was trotting and even got her into a short canter in am open field.

I realise people will have their opinions about people owning horses and not being experienced but I am doing a good job looking after these horses and I have done the right thing by getting the vet. Telling me I am not responsible for lunging her would be completely fine and I would agree with you if I just woke up and said you now what my horse is lame, vets are expensive I am going to lunge hopefully she gets better but I didn't I got the vet out and I followed his advice
I am posting here because I am questioning the vets decision as he doesn't know what exactly is wrong with her
     
    07-25-2013, 08:08 AM
  #10
Foal
What I mean by determined to ride her is I will do what I can so she is healthy and is able to be ridden because we love her, she is the most cuddly horse I have ever met and I don't want to let her amazing personality go to waste by being stuck in a paddock not doing anything.
I was angry that was most likely the tone that came across

My mum could ride mine but he is quite forward and she is nervous
She sees how he will go into a trot without me asking and while he listens perfectly when I ask him to slow she doesn't want to. He is also quite sensitive to leg aids which takes some getting used too .
     

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