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        06-30-2012, 11:41 AM
      #11
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by OwnedByAlli    
    Is the grass in their field really eaten down?
    That depends on how many horses per acre and also where they live.

    I've got 22 acres of just about nothing. We are parched and brown beyond belief. I've been throwing hay like it's winter and loading everyone up with hay when they come in at night, like it's winter

    "They" say we're in a moderate drought but it sure looks worse than moderate to me.

    Ditto to the comment about other horses possibly pushing this one away. I've even seen that happen with very young horses who are last in the pecking order. The mare was under five and nothing but a rack of bones standing in a paddock corner because the other horses wouldn't let her eat off the roundbale. Thankfully an acquaintance, that was looking at her, bought her and gave her the home she needed to have.
         
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        06-30-2012, 06:06 PM
      #12
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
    Well keep an eye on him, and do what you can.

    Have they had a chance to worm him yet as per your OP?
    I believe they did worm him, but I will check tonight.

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    Originally Posted by walkinthewalk    
    <sigh> Someone needs to help me understand how the horse world has evolved into the "the horse is losing weight so we're going to worm him" before they do anything else.

    Even if the horse is not UTD on worming, that is the last thing I'd do without asking the vet first.

    My two mid-20's fellas have a very hard time holding weight and it isn't because of worm load. It's because one has gastric ulcers and the other has hind gut ulcers and Equine Metabolic Syndrome.

    Hopefully the vet really is coming out sooner than later. I would discuss the possibility of ulcers -- both gastric and hind gut. Hind gut ulcers can be checked thru a fecal so there's the prime opportunity to have the worm load also checked on the horse before worming.

    Hopefully the vet will thoroughly check his teeth. Horses don't always have to be dropping their feed to have bad teeth.

    And in the end, hopefully all that is wrong is the horse isn't getting enough hay.

    Some horses reach a point in their life where they need more forage - maybe some alfalfa to give them more protein and amino acids, they didn't need when they were younger.

    Unless it hasn't been done for a year or two, worming, worming, worming is not the "go to" answer when a horse suddenly starts dropping weight. Should the horse happen to have ulcers, worming can really compound the issue with a good case of colic. Get the vet involved:)
    He is up to date on worming and shots. They have tried alfalfa in the past but it makes him too hot, so that is out of the question. I'm glad you reminded me of ulcers. I will tell them they should check that as well.

    Four months ago when he got his teeth floated the vet said there were a few big points. Maybe they missed one or two. That will be checked as well.

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    Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
    The others may be chasing him away from his hay. Horses will do that to older horses. Can he not be put somewhere else or in the barn so he can eat undisturbed? A horse needs hay for the fiber almost all day, except during snooze times otherwise he develops ulcers. If the hay is put in small mesh hay nets, one for each horse plus one extra, it slows down consumption and the hay will last longer. This alone can help a horse put on weight. With horses, the faster in, the faster out with barely lingering long enough to digest.
    The 2 older horses are fed away from the 2 younger horses and are not chased away. I agree with feeding little at a time, but it is also understandable why not all people can.

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    Originally Posted by OwnedByAlli    
    Is the grass in their field really eaten down? If it is, the hay net idea is a pretty good one. The hay will encourage them to be eating constantly, maintining body heat and encouraging weight gain. Or is there any way to separate the horse in question from his buddies with an electric tape so he gets any hay and grass all to his self without having to worry about being cahsed off his food.

    Do you know what the horses bucket feed consists of and how many times he's being fed a day?
    The horses are in a dry lot and no way to grow the grass. He gets fed 2 times a day and he gets 2-3 flakes per feeding plus oats, oil, bug off, and a multivitamin at night.
         
        06-30-2012, 08:37 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    He needs more hay. Full stop. Four flakes of hay and no access to other forage is not going to be enough for a lot of horses.
         
        06-30-2012, 08:51 PM
      #14
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ClaudiaD    

    The 2 older horses are fed away from the 2 younger horses and are not chased away. I agree with feeding little at a time, but it is also understandable why not all people can.



    The horses are in a dry lot and no way to grow the grass. He gets fed 2 times a day and he gets 2-3 flakes per feeding plus oats, oil, bug off, and a multivitamin at night.
    That isn't enough hay.. and I'm concerned that they may develop too much acid from not eating consistently enough.

    There isn't a way to feed him more? Especially an older guy.. he needs all the help you all can give him!
         
        07-01-2012, 11:53 AM
      #15
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by DraftXDressage    
    He needs more hay. Full stop. Four flakes of hay and no access to other forage is not going to be enough for a lot of horses.

    Four flakes is more than enough for a lot of horses. Especially small horses. Other than the 17hh jumping horses 90% of the horses I've fed were a good weight on four flakes and no grain, and they were getting ridden every day.
         
        07-01-2012, 03:29 PM
      #16
    Weanling
    Perhaps we have different definitions of "flake."
         
        07-02-2012, 11:08 PM
      #17
    Foal
    Our flakes are about 5 pounds a piece so the horse would get about 20 pounds of hay a day plus grain and he is only about 14 hh tall.
         
        07-02-2012, 11:12 PM
      #18
    Showing
    Have there been any changes to his diet or did you try any of the things we have suggested?

    Just curious
         
        07-02-2012, 11:33 PM
      #19
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
    Have there been any changes to his diet or did you try any of the things we have suggested?

    Just curious
    I'm not sure what they have changed yet. I will find out tomorrow. But they do like all the suggestions.

    So thank you to all of you.
         
        07-04-2012, 01:31 AM
      #20
    Foal
    That was my thought too. Older horses sometimes just don't compete for food. Separate feedings are a GREAT idea.

    My old boy needed to pick up weight in a bad way when I got him, and he responded ~very~ well to triple crown senior feed (given as a mash) and focus senior - a supplement that does have probiotics in it as well as vitamins and minerals. Corn oil added to the feed helps too.
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