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        08-18-2010, 06:15 PM
      #21
    Green Broke
    Um, srsly?

    They're slaughtered in Canada the EXACT same way they're slaughtered in the US, and we have essentially the same rules and regulations in place regarding how a kill floor operates.

    And for the record, shooting an animal is exactly the same as using a captive bolt. If both are done properly, the animal is instantly brain dead.

    Also, Mexico does not stab their animals to death. They do not have the same laws in place, and therefore they likely slaughter in much the same way we do but without as much concern for animal welfare. Stabbing an animal to death for slaughter is stupid, as it would render the meat worthless for human consumption. They stun them and cut their throats, and just don't really care if the animal is still alive.
         
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        08-18-2010, 06:26 PM
      #22
    Weanling
    I think that the worst part for any animal about going to slaughter wouldn't be the method used- I think most places are probably comperable in the humanity of their methods- but rather, the awareness that they are on "death row" so to speak. A slaughter house looks, smells, sounds and feels like a slaughterhouse. That bugs me way more than captive bolt vs. bullet vs. exsanguination, personally.
    Having slaughter more readily available in the US would at least eliminate the long, cramped truck rides out of the country, which can't be nice for slaughter-bound horses either.
         
        08-18-2010, 06:41 PM
      #23
    Green Broke
    ^

    Agreed. By the time they reach whatever method of death awaits them, it's a blessing after what they've already endured. For a flight animal like a horse, the horrors of being cramped into a truck and left in a pen to hear the fear and smell the blood is far more damaging to them then suffering a bit during death. It definitely bothers me more then the actual death.
         
        08-19-2010, 12:13 AM
      #24
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Also, Mexico does not stab their animals to death. They do not have the same laws in place, and therefore they likely slaughter in much the same way we do but without as much concern for animal welfare. Stabbing an animal to death for slaughter is stupid, as it would render the meat worthless for human consumption. They stun them and cut their throats, and just don't really care if the animal is still alive.
    technically they are stabbed to death, they stab them in the wither region to sever the spinal cord, rendering them paralyzed, but still concious.
         
        08-19-2010, 12:42 AM
      #25
    Green Broke
    ^

    Just because one video shows that doesn't mean it's how they slaughter all animals. Severing a spine cord is not an easy task, and I've seen the exact video you probably got that idea from. With an animal like a horse, it's impossible to keep them still and holds up production with costly delays. Mexico slaughters animals exactly the same way we do, the only difference is less stringent rules in many cases.

    PETA loves showing shock slaughter only. They find the worst animal abuse videos they can find and attempt to perpetrate that EVERYONE acts that way. It's simply not true.

    Horse slaughter conditions in Mexico explored by AAEP group - March 1, 2009
         
        08-19-2010, 01:50 AM
      #26
    Weanling
    Auctually it used to be that the sale of horse meat in the US was illegal while slaughter was still legal. However horse slaughter was outlawed in the United States. The last slaughter house was closed in 2007.

    Of course now the horses are merely shipped to Mexico and Canada so nothing has really changed.
         
        08-19-2010, 02:12 AM
      #27
    Weanling
    That was a great article, MM! Thanks for posting!
         
        08-19-2010, 07:50 AM
      #28
    Banned
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    Originally Posted by NordicJuniper    
    Auctually it used to be that the sale of horse meat in the US was illegal while slaughter was still legal. However horse slaughter was outlawed in the United States. The last slaughter house was closed in 2007.

    Of course now the horses are merely shipped to Mexico and Canada so nothing has really changed.
    You are incorrect. Yes, the last slaughter house (that processed horses) did close. But that was not because it was made illegal.
         
        08-19-2010, 09:34 AM
      #29
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by NordicJuniper    
    However horse slaughter was outlawed in the United States.
    Absolutely, positively incorrect.

    Horse slaughter has NEVER been illegal in the United States.

    Some individual states have made equine slaughter illegal, but in the majority of the U.S. Horse slaughter is still legal.

    I can have my own horses butchered if I want to, I just can't sell the meat to anyone. I can give it away, just not profit monetarily.

    Geez people, do your research! Except for a few states, the only thing you can't do is sell horse meat for human consumption.
         
        08-19-2010, 10:11 AM
      #30
    Green Broke
    It is currently illegal to slaughter horses for human consumption in the USA. The USDA must inspect all animals and meat that is meant for human consumption and funding for horse and horsemeat inspection was pulled from the USDA back in 2008 and has not been reinstated. Horses may still be slaughtered for animal consumption (zoos, pet food, etc.). They also may be exported to Canada, Mexico, and other countries for slaughter there (exported live).

    Individual states have laws banning the sale of horsemeat for human consumption (Texas has had one on the books since the 1960s) and also laws against their slaughter for human consumption (CA passed a law banning even the sale and transport of horses for slaughter in 1998). The US Code has no such law banning the sale or consumption of horsemeat, or slaughter of horses.

    The slaughter of horses for human consumption is illegal only due to no funding for USDA inspections and private inspections not being allowed, for comercial purposes. You can butcher your own horses, just like you can pigs, cows, deer, etc. for your own personal use. The USDA does not get involved there, except inspecting the processing plants to make sure they're operating legally.
         

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