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post #1 of 5 Old 11-07-2013, 10:01 AM Thread Starter
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Horse with a weak hind end

Hi, I'm new here and new to the world of horses but I have a questions to run by you all and would love any advice that you could give me. I have a 12 year old QH Gelding that my daughter rides and shows hunter jumper right now only in lower level flat classes. He's had some really crazy things happen to him in the 6 months that we've owned and boarded him at our trainers facility. Our trainer recommended that he ride in a Shambon during lessons with my 115lb daughter. He's ridden like that for 4 months now to supposedly help set his head. He cast in his stall one afternoon about 2 months ago and messed up his hind leg and we had to help him recover from that by following vets orders.

Does riding in a Shambon weaken or damage the horse? I've done some research and found 4 different references that specifically say not to ride in a shambon. It's only a longeing tool. After finding this out I asked that the shambon be removed and he has not been ridden in it anymore. But now when he's being ridden he acts like he really doesn't want to ride and kicks out at least twice while being ridden during lessons. He's only being ridden 3 to 4 days a week. I can't tell if he's hurting or just being lazy. The trainer says his hind end is weak. Any ideas as to where to start to help him regain strength in his back and hind end before I have to call the vet again?

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post #2 of 5 Old 11-07-2013, 10:10 AM
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I'd call the vet. The trainer is not a vet so she's just guessing. The horse is likely in pain somewhere.

A chambon is definitely never something to be used for riding. That the trainer suggested it says a lot about the trainer and none of it good. A chambon has no release if the horse fights it and it could have turned into a very ugly and dangerous situation. IMO you also need a new trainer. Not only is she putting your child in danger, she doesn't know how to train a horse. You don't train a horse properly by it's headset. Cranking a horse's head into position is not the same as proper riding where the horse gets the 'headset' through correct use of its body. Definitely time for a new trainer.
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In addition to DA's advice... finding a new trainer & not using this sort of equipment, I'd consider a vet chiropractor as opposed to just a vet, as they're more able to diagnose & treat body issues. He may have a pinched nerve, something 'out'.... BTW I specify vet chiro rather than just horse chiro because as with farriery & such, being a horse chiro is an unregulated profession, so practitioners don't have to have a lot of education - not that many may not be excellent, but who knows. Whereas to be a vet chiro requires someone to either be a vet or a human chiro first.

This problem could have happened when he cast himself, could have been existing & just got worse, probably not related to the chambon use, except that if he was forced to go in that 'frame' with some injury or weakness, it could have exacerbated it.
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Thanks for the advice. Luckily our Vet is a Chiro as well so I've scheduled an appointment for next week with her. I really feel that he is in pain somewhere because it is not in his character to act this way and he never acted this way until he casted in his stall. I'll keep you posted as to results and thanks again.
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just being cast in his stall could have made the horse become injured (like out of alignment in the spine or pelvis) in some way that makes him hurt to work. of course, he could also just be becoming sour about arena work, and having the chambon on .It' s always hard to say whether an animal is acting out out of physical pain, emotional discomfort or just plain laziness.

as for strengthening the hindquarters, hill work is really good for that, if you have the option to ride out and go up and down hills.
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