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post #1 of 11 Old 05-11-2014, 07:16 PM Thread Starter
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This is a bit of an unorganized thread...

Now that it's spring what I call the "OMG WHAT IS THIS WEIRD STUFF ON MY HORSES SKIN" Season...
I have been seeing allot of people posting all over forums and other social media asking "What is this on my horses skin" witch is expected but I've been noticing that many people post photos of what looks like that same thing but almost always diagnose it as something different than the last and because allot of these things are some sort of bacteria they can very likely be resolved by simply giving the horse an anti bacterial bath but I personally am very curious to what these things actually are, if they are reacquiring, what they are caused by and if they are contagious witch you can't determine without diagnosing what it really is.

I know that everyone on this site likes to pretend that they know the answer to everyone's questions but that behavior is what got us into this confusing situations so rather than expressing your opinion just simply write a reply in witch you state your personal *experience*.

When starting a conversation about a skin condition a photo is recommended.

I'll start....

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post #2 of 11 Old 05-11-2014, 07:57 PM Thread Starter
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This post was posted by someone a month or so ago on my Facebook page...

Anyone have any idea what this could be? When it first started coming up though it was heat rash so cut his rugs down as he does get hot easily and it's only got worse.
Have been putting some aloe dermatitis cream on it seeing if it helps but only on day 2 of it. Any advise welcome.


There were almost 20 different ideas to what it might be and 34 ways to cure it...
Some of what people thought it was..
Reaction to fly bites.
Reaction to change in feed.
Reaction to apples.
Reaction to fly spray.
Protein rash.
Urticaria.
Hives.
Reaction from being clipped.
Reaction to bedding.
Allergy to tack.
Allergy to blackthorn in the hedges.
Mites.
Barely Bumps.
Stress.
Buttercup poisoning.
Etc etc etc etc....

People said it could be cured with...
Safe Care For Animals Rapid Relief.
Garlic.
Fly Spray.
Some injection from vet.
Antihistamines.
Piriton.
Anti biotic injection.
Anti bacteria wash.
Warmer.
Reduce barley intake.
Soaking hay.
Wash with corsidill mouthwash.
Spirulina.
Pure aloe gel.
Neem oil mix.
Wash with salt water.
Change of bedding.
Different shampoo.
Narrower clipper blades.
Change of clipper oil.
Medicated shampoo.
Aqueous cream.

I know some of those things are pretty much the same thing and some of those things do the same thing.

What was it really caused by?
Is it recurring?
Is it contagious?
Should the owner get tests done?
Etc etc etc...

What is your experience with this??
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post #3 of 11 Old 07-04-2016, 08:06 AM
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Strangles can itch so they will get a rash in the neck and throat area. Strangles is a bacterial infection on the inside of the body so you can't treat it with MSG or any topical ointments.

Ringworm in gross but easy to treat.. easy to spread too. Its just a white ring on the skin and the hair will be gone. Ask vet supply or feed store for ointment

I've also dealt with tail rubbing which could have been a bacterial thing but that could have also just been a bad habit. I treated the hair loss with MTG

Insects are really just placed in the allergic reaction category. It depends on your horse. Don't use any chemical that they react to and use fly sheets/spray systems if you have to.

That's all I've dealt with Thank baby jesus!

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post #4 of 11 Old 07-04-2016, 11:30 AM
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1. No wonder you're so confused. The Fb pages all that crap was posted on should be burned. While this isn't my primary reason for not having a FB account, it would serve as a close second------

2. Oftentimes a single skin condition is known by different names, depending on locale and age. Me being in the retired category, know all the old time names and have had to learn the equivalent new ones.

For example I know what heaves in a horse is but a lot of the younger generations only know that disease by COPD.

3. There are a plethora of treatments for skin conditions. What works for THIS horse may not work for THAT horse because their chemistries are all different. Thus the reason for hearing about so many treatments for the same skin issue.

3.1. One has to determine if the skin issue is bacterial, fungal, or both, then figure out the cheapest and safest treatment, since no horse owner is rich, in spite of what the rest of the world thinks.

4. How easy a horse picks up a skin issue is predicated upon two things:

4.1. How strong it's immune system is first and foremost.
4.2. It's living environment.

5. Yes some skin issues are spreadable thru the use of brushes and unclean hoof picks, too. When I had four horses, they all had their own brushes and hoof picks.

I am down to two horses, everything is still kept separated and brushes are still frequently washed in hot water/Dawn dish soap.

6. As far as skin issues:

6. 1. Sweet itch spreads like wild fire on a horse. If it gets out of control, a vet is needed because it has nowhere to go but straight to Hades.

6.1.1 Sweet Itch is from the bite of the Midge Fly that is also responsible for laying microfiliae (worms) under the horse's skin. They are called Onchocerca worms, aka Neck Thread worms. They migrate under the skin and itch like heck. They are also recorded as sometimes migrating into a horse's eye, being one of the causes of moon blindness.

6.2. Rain rot is on the back of the horse and causes itchy/flaking/scabbing and sometimes black dots of mold. Rain rot is a misnomer in that it does not need rain to erupt. It needs sweat, heat, humidity, and a poor immune system.

7. Scratches, are hurtful/itchy scabs on the ankles and fetlocks. If let go they can speedily creep up the horse's leg to the inner thighs and have been known to cause cellulitis in a few cases. That means it's time to call the vet as cellulitis can affect the liver.

Scratches is phytosensitivity to dew/sun, wet grass/sun. It is largely found on the white legs of a horse but I have a horse who gets it on his brown legs. He has a poor immune system.

8. Tail itching can range from the horse's sheath itching, to the rain rot itching him, to the horse having Pinworms. Pinworms do NOT show up in a fecal. One has to take a piece of scotch tape and place across the anal area to see if any stick to the tape.

I'm sorry if I seem to fall into your know-it-all category. I don't know everything, a long way from it. BUT I've been on a horse since I was two and started paying for my own when I was 12. I have had horses non-stop 57 years, so I have been to a couple county fairs and a wagon burnin', where horse health issues are concerned:)

I won't bother to detail what I have used on my horses for skin issues because it not relevant. What is relevant is that any horse with chronic repetitive skin issues has an immune deficiency and its up to the owner to figure out how to fix it. Yes, those fixes can also vary, lollol

I hope this is some help - believe me, even the worst input on this forum is head and shoulders over any of that garbage you posted from FB.

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This is a bit of an unorganized thread...

Now that it's spring what I call the "OMG WHAT IS THIS WEIRD STUFF ON MY HORSES SKIN" Season...
I have been seeing allot of people posting all over forums and other social media asking "What is this on my horses skin" witch is expected but I've been noticing that many people post photos of what looks like that same thing but almost always diagnose it as something different than the last and because allot of these things are some sort of bacteria they can very likely be resolved by simply giving the horse an anti bacterial bath but I personally am very curious to what these things actually are, if they are reacquiring, what they are caused by and if they are contagious witch you can't determine without diagnosing what it really is.

I know that everyone on this site likes to pretend that they know the answer to everyone's questions but that behavior is what got us into this confusing situations so rather than expressing your opinion just simply write a reply in witch you state your personal *experience*.

When starting a conversation about a skin condition a photo is recommended.

I'll start....
So the very "pretenders" who got you into "this situation" (I dropped the S for you) are the ones you are now asking for advice without an opinion?
My advice is to call a vet & get their opinion.

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So the very "pretenders" who got you into "this situation" (I dropped the S for you) are the ones you are now asking for advice without an opinion?
My advice is to call a vet & get their opinion.
Yup, as one of the "pretenders" who got you into this situation (HARDLY) my opinion is, since our cumulative knowledge is so worthless and uninformed, best you have a vet call so you know you get good value, because you PAID for it. Obviously no one who spends a life time with horses has learned anything, so feel free to pay someone else.
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So rather than expressing your opinion just simply write a reply in witch you state your personal *experience*.

When starting a conversation about a skin condition a photo is recommended.

I'll start....
Wanted to mention that none of your photos work for me.

And what exactly is it that you're looking for here? Opinions are going to be based on people's personal experience of what was successful for them in a certain situation.
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post #8 of 11 Old 07-09-2016, 08:41 AM
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The OP's last post was May 11, 2014.

The thread was, I think, inadvertently resurrected in July of this year:(

Shame on me for. Ot looking at the original date or I would never have wasted my time with a reply.

Just wanted to point out this thread is two years old and never had any replies until this July (2016).
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Haha! Totally didn't see that. Thanks!
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LOL! Well, the OP certainly got what they paid for at the time.

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