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    02-13-2010, 10:17 AM
Microchips also have a tendency to migrate making them hard to find.
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    02-13-2010, 10:20 AM
I'm not comparing branding to the holocaust. I'm talking about people's tolerance of things. It was an example, NOT a comparison. You said "Why is it that people feel the need to force thier "morals" onto other people". And I was simply explainging why it's often the case where we should show objection, and not just be lovely and tolerant.
Brands can be altered quite easily, all you have to do is place another brand over it or cut about at the horse's skin. Just becuase branding is more efficient, does not mean it's better for the horse.

From Horse and Hound
"In terms of pain and local inflammation, hot branding proved to be more painful and caused greater prolonged sensitivity in the skin than microchipping.

There was more swelling and more evidence of skin damage in branding than in microchipping, which is not surprising and has led the authors to call for branding to be abandoned wherever possible."

EDIT: I'm also adding that microchipping is more common in the UK than in America. So maybe it makes less sense over in America to microchip. But the OP wants to get branding banned in Scotland, and seen as microchipping is compulsory for every foal nowadays, there is no doubt that there is plenty technology to identify horses over there and no point in the continuation of branding. Also the OP is a vet, so I'm pretty sure she knows what she's doing

    02-13-2010, 10:57 PM
Maybe people just want to continue the old traditions instead of doing everything technological.
And it just so happens that she found one video where the horse was freaking out, if you go to youtube and look at branding videos you can also find ones like this

I also do my job shadows with a large animal veterinarian. Not once has he ever complained about branding.
    02-13-2010, 11:03 PM
Green Broke
Like mentioned above, microchips can be removed. Brands are easy to identify. Similar to what they do to cattle to identify them.
    02-13-2010, 11:06 PM
We have a cow pony at my barn who has a brand. We haven't been able to read it, but we know she's done cow work and barrels before. I would associate branding with lip TB has one, imagine how painful that was but no one complains about that. I agree with kevinshorses, microchips have the tendancy to migrate, and hot brands, however painful, are easier to see and identify. Someone who thinks they can steal a horse with a brand on their butt is pretty stupid, but anyone could walk off with a horse that's been microchipped.
    02-13-2010, 11:09 PM
Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
I'm going to go brand a horse just to spite you. Maybe I'll brand two.
Haha, this made me laugh
    02-13-2010, 11:10 PM
Green Broke
I've seen several horses branded. It's not that dramatical. Just like cows they get over it very quickly. I'm not so sure on how easy it is to mess with the brands.
    02-13-2010, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
It's not abuse. I think it is foolish to waste time making laws that are this stupid. I'm going to go brand a horse just to spite you. Maybe I'll brand two.

OMG!! Kevin, you made me laugh so hard!!

Seriously, I've been around warmbloods all my life and have watched hundreds being hot branded. It is hardly noticed by most horses. They are bothered by the clipping much more. I had an iron hit me on the hand once, and I just felt COLD....until later.

Come on, save your petitions for more worthy causes than traditional brandings, which DO serve a purpose.
    02-13-2010, 11:41 PM
IMO it looked like the pony got upset when it saw the smoke from the brand after it had been held in place for awhile. He was only a little resistant until the smoke came up then he got real upset. He seemed just as bothered by the microchip placement. I'm sure its not comfortable and does cause some temporary pain, but I'm not sure that I am so against it to make a law?
    02-13-2010, 11:47 PM
What will be banned next? Riding? 0_0

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