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    06-09-2010, 12:54 PM
  #21
Yearling
YES it will show the exact drug because that is what you have to test for. I have run tests for USEF. Aren't you a vet tech, why don't you know this??
     
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    06-09-2010, 01:33 PM
  #22
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by tealamutt    
YES it will show the exact drug because that is what you have to test for. I have run tests for USEF.
Yet you told these people they cannot run a test for the drugs?

YES they can tell the exact drug if you look specifically for it - HOWEVER, there are indicators that will show A drug is in the system without getting in depth and $.

A sample pulled at a PPE is such a test. A sample pulled at an event is such a test.
     
    06-09-2010, 01:48 PM
  #23
Yearling
However, all of that said there is one drug that can modify a horse's temperament for a month without any of those symptoms.
     
    06-09-2010, 04:38 PM
  #24
Foal
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Originally Posted by mom2pride    
This is why I really prefer to not purchase from a sale barn...not to say that every seller will do things like doping a horse, or masking pain with medications, but with the 'faster pace' a buyer might be sucked in and forget to do something as simple as blood testing prior to a buy.

That said, when ever you do a purchase, make sure to get the blood tests and health check prior to sealing the deal. Make sure the horse has a negative coggins, as well as a current proof of vaccination and worming history. Now, if it is a rescue horse you are going after, obviously some of those may not be current, but still always get a thorough vet check and run a blood test asap.

VERY IMPORTANT.

This happened to me. They were REALLY "pushy" about the sale.. and I thought I was getting a steal because I found Cerra on another horse advertisement elsewhere too, for triple what I paid.

Price is everything. "UTD Farrier, Shots, Worming." <-- Nope. I don't think she'd even seen a needle or been wormed, and her feet were disasterous. Wasn't even an inch of her that wasn't caked/matted when we picked her up. Buyer beware.. People can be so greedy and underhanded! (Now I see ANOTHER ad, by the same seller, and I just shake my head. Cerra might have cost me some extra money, but you can see security and gratitude in her eyes these days.)
     
    06-09-2010, 05:47 PM
  #25
Foal
Remember you get what you pay for. Buying a horse is like buying a car. Years of payments--commitment--and if the motor blows up well??

You get what you pay for if you work with someone who knows horses and is paid to help you--not the seller. Like in real estate.

Find someone who knows and let them help you find the right horse for you. Be prepared to pay for a good one. If its too good to be true it most probably is.

The race horse people have been giving "vitamins" to horses for years. The tests for them get better but the methods of masking them keep up. So its who you get to help that counts.
     
    06-09-2010, 06:01 PM
  #26
Foal
Hey Butterfly,

It is dreadful the way some people misrepresent their horse when they are selling it. And sale barns must be the worst. My horse was on something when I bought him. I was railroaded into buying him by certain family members who were on a mission to buy that horse. I didn't know what I was doing but I should have just put my foot down and said "no". My vet was not helpful, unfortunately, I asked about testing for substances but that went nowhere. Now I have him for sale for about 12% of what I bought him for.
     
    06-09-2010, 06:46 PM
  #27
Foal
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Originally Posted by AfterParty    
f course a simple blood test could let you know if the horse is doped up . Although you can look for these signs

Ears don't move, even when there is a lot of noise. They mostly stay in a tilted back position.
Dropped heart rate- a horse's natural pulse should be between 40-60 Beats per minute. If you are suspicious that a horse may be drugged walk up and take the pulse right along the girth line.
Extra salavation from the mouth, even when not worked. A horse will naturally salavate with a bit in their mouth, however, if you notice the St Bernard or Mastiff effect on a horse, steer clear.
Glazed eyes with hardly any blinking.
Dehydration of the skin- a horse normally doped up will not drink or eat properly. Pinch a fatty part of the skin, if it doesn't fold back to normal...you know something is wrong.

And lastly, your gut instinct. A person who normally dopes their horse will not leave the horse's side. This is because people are curious and may wonder why the horse is unreactive or unresponsive to noise, other horses, and people. An owner standing right by their side- to calm worries by saying, "Oh, this guy is such a baby." or "He's always been like this with large crowds."
Don't believe that...
I never even knew people did such a thing. I almost bought a horse once and travelled 6 hours to see him, he was the most calmest i've ever seen and when in trail his head was hanging low, he was unresponsive to any noise what so ever... I didn't purchase him because something didn't seem right... he looked illish. Now I wonder if he was doped! It was best anyways... I was and still am not ready for a horse just yet, but as soon as I am now I know what to look for for a doped up horse... TY.
     

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