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        07-02-2010, 09:16 AM
      #21
    Showing
    I agree with Wyoming and Always.

    You've allowed all of this to happen, ILS. If you truly cared for your animal, you would have moved her in a New York minute the first time things got a little whonky.

    You're responsible for your mare's injuries, no one else. You're also responsible for bringing an 'accident' into the world, and now you're boo hooing that there's going to be another one because of your ignorance and neglect?

    You'll get no sympathy from me. My sympathy is reserved for those poor animals of yours. Maybe they'll get lucky and finally get an owner who really cares about their health and welfare.

    You shouldn't own horses. I'd be loathe to let you even have seamonkeys.
         
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        07-02-2010, 09:18 AM
      #22
    Started
    I forgot that one, there have been so many.
    I think this little girl likes to write drama so everyone can feel sorry for her.
    I also thinks she likes the drama and truly thinks she likes the foals and a chance to have more. She doesn't want to admit she is breeding her mare, but its easier to say" oh my, my mare got bred and now I have a foal"
    Lets face it, if you are PAYING a boarding facility to keep your horse there, there are laws to protect things like this happening over and over, it is a form of neglect to let stallions run amok.. And don't forget she finally admitted "her mom was behind on the board bill, but is moving for sure now".
    Maybe there is more to this story, maybe these people are not welcome at other barns because of failure to pay or any number of things.
    I think it was fishy before and its fishy again. She wants foals and keeps allowing her mare to get bred, but blames others for it. Then sends updates, photos, videos, etc about how happy she is with foal, now is complaining again about the BO and the mare being bred again.
         
        07-02-2010, 09:18 AM
      #23
    Green Broke
    I believe that the PO sincerely WANTS to move her horse. I believe she sincerely WANTED to move the horse before. I also believe that she is a minor and she is constrained by her parents needs, wants, and abilities....or lack of (she mentioned her mom owes backboard and doesn't care). Yes, it is somewhat in her control but then again we need to remember, when are minors in control of what their parents do? She can't MAKE her mother move the horse or call/pay for a vet. Some vets won't come out if they are called by a minor. I remember when I was 16 and my horse went lame the vets office told me I had to have my mom call them in. My mom knew ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about horses and couldn't even answer their questions.

    Anyway, we all know there are limitations here. PO knows what needs done and most likely the most she can do is nag her mom to DEATH in order to get it done so I believe a lot of "I told you so's" and "why haven't you's" and other criticisms aren't really going to help Sonya at this point.

    Let's get back to thinking of ways she CAN help her horse to feel more comfortable right now until she succeeds in getting her mom to get the vet down, etc.
         
        07-02-2010, 09:25 AM
      #24
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cinnys Whinny    

    Anyway, we all know there are limitations here. PO knows what needs done and most likely the most she can do is nag her mom to DEATH in order to get it done so I believe a lot of "I told you so's" and "why haven't you's" and other criticisms aren't really going to help Sonya at this point.

    Let's get back to thinking of ways she CAN help her horse to feel more comfortable right now until she succeeds in getting her mom to get the vet down, etc.
    There are minors all over the place (on any horse BB) that find a way to pay for what their horse NEEDS. There are ways for minors to make money if they want to. There are ways for minors to accomplish things.

    So, I am sympathetic to the issues of having to deal with being a minor it is not an excuse.

    If it is how you describe then the proper thing for the minor to do is put the health and well being of her horse first. Which in a case like this is to sell her horse to a responsible person.

    It is nothing short of selfish to continue on like this.


    And Cinny, you and I both know that all the vet wanted from your mother was her to get on the phone and say it was OK for them to come out, the bill would be paid by someone of legal age to make a contract (because that is what it is when you call the vet out, a contract, they do service, you pay them for it). I am sure they are fine with you telling them what is wrong and your mother simply saying 'I am paying the bill, please come out'. Good try though.
         
        07-02-2010, 09:33 AM
      #25
    mls
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ilovesonya    
    I know that many of you have been telling me to move them, it's just that my mom was not in the right spot financially to move them. We owe them back-board, but my mom doesn't care. She says we are moving them ASAP, hopefully tomorrow.
    Good luck with moving if you have a contract. Our contract states we have a lien on the horse if board is one day late. If you move the horses prior to making good on what you owe, it's theft, breach of contract, etc.

    Sorry to all of you folks you are so over the top about the injury. It really is nothing terrible. If the mare had a healing wound, she very likely reopened the area herself when she rubbed. The OP also mentioned it could of happened anytime in the last 5 days. Sorry again - no real sympathy for a boarder who claims the place is terrible but goes that long without checking on her stock.

    To the OP - yes it could be missed by something doing a check. I have 30+ horses on the property. With my 3x a day checks, I never lift tails to check the privates unless I have good reason to.
         
        07-02-2010, 09:38 AM
      #26
    Started
    When I was a minor, I had 5 horses and managed to keep them healthy and took care of the DAILY, went to school and paid for them. If I needed a vet, I called and my parents okayed them coming.
    We keep horses, dogs, cats etc because we want to, because we love them, but they TRUST us to take proper care of them. Not one of them ask to be put in dangerous situations, and when it happens, WE have to take care of them, they can't ask us to do it for them. Minor or not, if you have animals then take care of them. If as a minor you can't and your parents won't, then you have no business owning them. My parents knew squat about horses, but that did not stop them from making sure they were taken care of DAILY by me.
    I think ILS should quit with the drama and grow up. The horses need someone to take care of them, not someone to write to the forum with her multiple sad stories and except us to feel sorry for her. Instead we all feel sorry for the horses and the dangerous situations she continues to keep them in, if indeed all the facts are as she states them. (which I have my doubts).
         
        07-02-2010, 09:38 AM
      #27
    Foal
    Speed Racer I don't think that your last comment was necessary, theirs no need in being childish.

    However, yes she may be a minor, but again it is her responsibility to make her parents understand that it is for the health and well
    Being of both the mare and the filly. A horse is not something to be ***** footing around about, if your going to be paying $1000 or more, and then so much every month for board for an animal, then you'd better friggen well take care of it. If not then whats the point to keep it? You can lease a horse in that case, if you or your parents can't handle the responsibility or finances.

    Whenever my horse needs something, like a vet or anything concerning his safety and health, if it concerns money having to be spent my parents don't question, they have absolutely no idea about horses, sheesh, my mom thought that 30 bales of hay would be enough for 4 months... anyway, they don't question it, because they know that I know whats best for him, if he needs to see a vet that's going to result in a $300 bill then he's very well going to see the vet, no ifs, ands or buts, and if I need to move him to another stable that's more expensive because he's not being treated right then I'll do that too.
         
        07-02-2010, 09:42 AM
      #28
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
    There are minors all over the place (on any horse BB) that find a way to pay for what their horse NEEDS. There are ways for minors to make money if they want to. There are ways for minors to accomplish things.
    Unless this girl has the ability to hitch up a trailer to a truck and drag that horse out herself, I really doubt spending a whole thread saying "I told you so" is really going to do more than make her feel completely horrid about something sh has no control over.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
    And Cinny, you and I both know that all the vet wanted from your mother was her to get on the phone and say it was OK for them to come out
    Not true, my vet at the time INSISTED that the person paying the bill be present at all exams so that he could get THEIR consent on how to proceed with treatment. I understand any vet who does this because of course any KID is going to agree to all sorts of treatment for their beloved horse and then the parent NOT pay the bill because the child said yes to the most expensive route of treatment.

    But this isn't a debate, it isn't about making telling the PO what we think of her it's about HELPING SONYA. Let's please stick to that.
         
        07-02-2010, 09:44 AM
      #29
    Green Broke
    Ow poor girl! Looks like she needs a vet to sort that out again. I do think you should move barns if they are not noticing things like this when horse owners are not there...
         
        07-02-2010, 09:45 AM
      #30
    Showing
    Brighteyes, my comment stands. I'm not going to apologize for it, because it's people like the OP who shouldn't own horses.

    Plus, the word is there's, which means there is. Theirs denotes possession.

    There are so many of us on here who have taken extraordinary measures to make sure our animals are safe and well cared for, and it irks me to no end to see someone like the OP, who appears to think it's all just a drama with her in the starring role.

    Animals and their needs should always come first. If they don't, then their owner's priorities are skewed and they need to reevaluate just why they have horses.

    Animals, like children, are a huge responsibility and should not be gone into lightly. Unfortunately, just like having children, owning horses doesn't require a license or proof that you know what you're doing.

    But please, y'all continue with your cooing and hand holding of the OP. I'm sure this time things will turn out differently.
         

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