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post #11 of 54 Old 02-12-2011, 11:04 AM Thread Starter
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post #12 of 54 Old 02-12-2011, 02:18 PM
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Umm, I don't know if he has foundered or not. I don't know how he would have since he hasn't been turned out until I got him which was at the end of December and I don't think he would have foundered as a yearling if he had been turned out before racetraining. He seems to to fine barefoot, how would I know if he needed shoes or not? I wanted to put fronts on him just to be on the safe side but my dad just had the farrier pull them all.
He hasn't been "foundered" in the sence of grass or metobolic type. He does appear to have had multiple incidences of mild laminitis. Being off the track it would be called "track founder" or "road founder". Though not truly founder, he has had mild cases of laminitis caused by concussion. Hard track, thin soles, improper hoof protection can all contribute to this.

Founder = rotation of the coffin bone.

Laminitis = inflamation of the lamina.

You can have laminitis w/o founder(rotation), but you can NOT have founder w/o laminitis.

Should not be a problem now that you have him as most likely no perminent damage done. Just something to be aware of.

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Also, does anyone know of a good website that explains how to trim your own horses hooves? I cannot find a good farrier and so I need to learn. Thanx!
If you could post your location, we could probably help you find a farrier.
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Those don't look like founder rings. Rings in the hoof can appear for a number of reasons: change in feed, change in hay, stress, enviornmental stress (big weather change), or illness. Racing may have just been too hard on him and caused a lot of stress, or he could be the type to colic easy.

As for his feet, they just need a good trim. His heels are too high IMO, but it's just due to his overdue feet. I would have the farrier trim him every 4-5 weeks. If he's just going on 6 weeks now and he's chipping, then he needs them done more often.
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Also, does anyone know of a good website that explains how to trim your own horses hooves? I cannot find a good farrier and so I need to learn. Thanx!
Pete Ramey has some great information on his web site. He has a good book, articles, and a DVD series you can buy. Pete Ramey hoof care heals founder in horse’s navicular disease farrier

To learn to trim yourself, you really need hands-on experience. Many barefoot trimmers will teach you while they trim your horse, so you can learn over the course of 6 months to a year while you have someone helping you each time. Most charge just a little extra on top of their normal trim price.
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He has very shallow feet, like my OTTB does, but there's something else funky going on I can't put my finger on....
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Those don't look like founder rings.
Your right, they aren't founder rings. They are caused by mild bouts of laminitis.:roll: Founder and laminitis are different things even though they go hand in hand.

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Rings in the hoof can appear for a number of reasons: change in feed, change in hay, stress, enviornmental stress (big weather change), or illness. Racing may have just been too hard on him and caused a lot of stress, or he could be the type to colic easy.
These are all possibilities, however, laminitis caused by concussion is the most probable cause due to the fact that he's 90 days off the track. I hope for the OP's sake they aren't caused by colic.

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As for his feet, they just need a good trim. His heels are too high IMO, but it's just due to his overdue feet. I would have the farrier trim him every 4-5 weeks. If he's just going on 6 weeks now and he's chipping, then he needs them done more often.
Good trim or proper trim? As for the rest, the professional in care of the feet need to make that decision. Sometimes it "just depends".

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bntnail, is it necessary to pick apart my post? On the first page someone mentioned founder, which is why I said that they were not founder rings.

And if his feet are chipping that readily, he definitely needs to see the farrier more often. His feet look overdue as well. If it's been 6 weeks from trim to photos, then it's a pretty safe best that he needs to be seen more often than 6 weeks...
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Sorry guys I haven't had a chance to reply :(. Anyway, he did have a mild bout of colic a couple of weeks ago, I sure hope he isn't one to colic easy. I don't remember what we thought caused the colic, hmmmm. If he has had laminaetis before, does that mean he's likely to again? I sure hope not :(. Also, I'm sorry if I made if sound like we got his feet trimmed 6 weeks ago, the farrer pulled his shoes 6 weeks ago but he said that it was a pretty resent shoeing job. I think his feet really started to crack and chip though after he got his shoes pulled. He didnt rasp them or anything and the started to chip after that. I hope I can convince my dad to atleast let the farrier do his feet the first couple of ties so he can get them at the right length and everything as well as show my dad how to do it.
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A brefoot horse, generally speaking, should have their feet trimmed every 4-5 weeks, at least in my experience. Waiting longer risks chipping and cracking.

Trimming feet is an art and a science. Do not let your dad do your horse's feet on his own without help for at least the next 6 months.

If you'll post what state you're in, we can help you find a good barefoot trimmer.
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