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    12-02-2010, 09:45 AM
  #1
Weanling
How do I help a cribber who's teething?

I recently got a 2y/o ottb who through faulty ownership and not enough excersize has become a cribber. She only cribs inside, not in pasture..But she's teething also (she has a tooth bump on her lower jaw)
She's very mouthy, always biting things. Heres my question..how do I help??
She has a cribbing collar but I hate it. Everyone thinks that with more excersize she will stop cribbing but I don't want to overwork her..she's two nearly three.. I'm riding her 4 times a week at a walk and trot..would longing the other days help her or is that too much? She's not a typical ottb....shes very mellow and slow. Her walk is very lethargic but her trot is a dream.
     
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    12-02-2010, 11:35 AM
  #2
Foal
Oh wow what a situation to be in! I agree with you on not working her much more than you already are. 2 year olds are so immature physically and mentally. What is her turnout and stalling situation? Does she get at least 8 to 10 hours outside? Would you be able to move her into a 24/7 turnout situation with a buddy she really likes?

I'm not sure where you're located but are you able to do some nice easy, slow hacks and trail rides? The ground is frozen here and trail riding now can be tricky until we get a good blanket of snow, but maybe you're some place warmer?

Have you tried a small mesh hay net? Freedom Feeder Small Hole Hay Net - Hay Bags/Nets from SmartPak Equine They are great for reducing boredom because the horse has to pull the hay through the tiny holes.

I agree with trying to get on top of this now before it becomes a really badly ingrained habit. I wish I had some more ideas for you.
     
    12-02-2010, 10:07 PM
  #3
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Padrona    
Oh wow what a situation to be in! I agree with you on not working her much more than you already are. 2 year olds are so immature physically and mentally. What is her turnout and stalling situation? Does she get at least 8 to 10 hours outside? Would you be able to move her into a 24/7 turnout situation with a buddy she really likes?

I'm not sure where you're located but are you able to do some nice easy, slow hacks and trail rides? The ground is frozen here and trail riding now can be tricky until we get a good blanket of snow, but maybe you're some place warmer?

Have you tried a small mesh hay net? Freedom Feeder Small Hole Hay Net - Hay Bags/Nets from SmartPak Equine They are great for reducing boredom because the horse has to pull the hay through the tiny holes.

I agree with trying to get on top of this now before it becomes a really badly ingrained habit. I wish I had some more ideas for you.
She currently gets turned out from about 5pm to 8am. She doesn't crib while she's outside I know that but no unfortunately there isnt a way to have her on 24/7 turnout. There are trails, unfortunately not a lot of people want to go for a trail ride in this weather.. I'm in St.Louis and it's a little chily right now. The ground isn't frozen yet but to access the trails it's either a steep steep hill which has a tendancy to flood in an area(rather not take her down that) or walking along a roadside for about 1/2 a mile to get to the other trail entrance. And the trail is mostly wooded...I don't want to take it alone. My boyfriend can take our gelding and he wants to go on a trail but he works until 5 and it's dark by the time he gets off and I work untill 4 most weekends :/ I'll look into a hay net.. That might help.. she had a jolly ball hanging but never touched it. I took one out of my geldings stall since he just let it collect dust and just tossed it in her stall. As of now she's sure it's going to eat her and keeps it in a corner but hopefully she will change her mind. I don't want to get a pacifier because I feel like that's just ASKING her to crib. But I was looking into a lickit or the ball that's in a net..boredom buster? I'm looking for anything that will help at this point. She hates the cribbing collar and loves nothing more than to be stratched where it lays. I get her out everyday for a walk around the stables if nothing else. Just trying to break her boredom a little.
What kills me is it's not even like she has excess energy she's dying to burn. She has the most mellow relaxed attitude ever and the most lethargic walk.
     
    12-02-2010, 10:37 PM
  #4
Foal
Did you get your vet to go over her before you bought her? I know that some horses are naturally lethargic and unenergized, but it could also be a problem if she's slightly anaemic.
I definitely recommend getting her a likit or something similar, though there's no guarantees that she's going to be interested in that, either. The idea of the haynet is a really good one too!
When she's in her stable, can she see other horses easily? Because that might help? Otherwise you might consider getting her a companion though I'm not certain how viable that is at your barn. Sometimes having a companion in the stable can keep a horse from developing/continuing bad habits, and also help them to relax (even though you say she's already really chilled).
The fact that she's a filly is what rings the bells in my head. Filly's stress more than colts or geldings in a racing yard, or any high-stress environment. Have you noticed if she finishes all her food at mealtimes? Does she drink more than a normal amount of water, or not enough? Have you taken her temperature? I'd be worried about some kind of lowgrade virus or ulcers.
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Shes very mouthy, always biting things. Heres my question..how do I help??
Does she only bite? Or is she sucking in air as well? Being 'mouthy' and chewing on things can be an indication of ulcers.
     
    12-04-2010, 05:49 AM
  #5
Yearling
You could even consider the Best Friend muzzle for while she is stalled. She can still eat and drink with the muzzle on.
     
    12-04-2010, 06:55 AM
  #6
Showing
There is a lot of debate on this but many, if not all, cribbers are born, not made - meaning that it's in their genes. A friend of mine bred his Morgan, a cribber, and the foal began cribbing before she was a year old. Some will argue that it is a learned behavior, and it could be also.

As for your mare, once a horse shows signs of cribbing, there isn't much the average owner can do besides a collar. Things like work, and feeding sweet feed, seems to increase the habit. Cribbing is like a drug to a horse. It releases endorphins and is equivalent to drug addiction in a person. The difference is that a person understands what they are doing and a horse just knows that it feels good.

I've heard some member claim that they have cured the habit but, personally, I don't believe it can be done with certainty.

I would get a collar on your horse ASAP. Cribbing can be a major health problem for your horse, let alone what it does to your fences and stalls.
     
    12-05-2010, 07:01 PM
  #7
Weanling
Thanks everyone, I'll try to reply to everything at once.
I didn't have a vet check and here's why. She's a sale horse who was being essential work leased until he got over the excitement of a horse. She's in the same barn as my gelding and I got sick of seeing her be neglected. So I started working with her and cleaning her stall. Her price was 300 but she's worth way more in personality alone not to mention her trot which is like a dream.
I offered to lease her so she would stay and I would be able to work with her.
The stables owner then said to me he's glad to see someone working with her and since I pay my board 2 weeks early every month that he's giving her to me.
So there's no purchase. She will be getting her coggins after the first of the year unless the vet comes out soner. At that point I'll have her evaluate her and how she's growing.
She does windsuck. She has a collar on her now, I'm trying to find an alternative. I've asked for the hay net for christmas and was on the fence about getting her a likit or the "boredom buster" ball in a net thing.
She does finish all her feed and drinks a normal about of water. It was a little low but I got her a salt block and now she's good. She doesn't crib when there's feed I've noticed that.
There are other horses in the barn with her. They all go out in the morning and come in it 4. She has a horse across from her as well as next to her and her stall is next to the door so she can see outside if the weather is nice enough to have the door open.
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