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post #1 of 9 Old 12-27-2008, 11:04 PM Thread Starter
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How long does it take a horse to colic? Founder?

Thankfully, I haven't had any impaction colic episodes (just a pain colic from a hock injury) so I was curious as to the onset of colic symptoms from a feed change...

My boarder is frantically trying to put weight on her Arabian mare and keeps making radical feed changes. She has been making this wheat bran, molasses, applesauce mix and feeding in sporadically. I spoke with her and told her the best option would to change her feed from Strategy to Triple Crown Senior (since her horse doesn't eat all of her hay). Well she brings her bags of Triple Crown over around 10 this morning (an hour and a half after I fed her the usual 2.25 lbs of Strategy) and she feeds her horse 2 lbs of the Triple Crown Senior.

Do you think this is enough to make her sick? I would think that if it made her sick it would be with in a few hours but I don't know for sure.
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post #2 of 9 Old 12-27-2008, 11:24 PM
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founder takes some time if she was going to colic she probably would have done by now . Sheshould be ok if she doesnt continue feeding her like that . But things vary horse to horse

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post #3 of 9 Old 12-28-2008, 06:29 AM
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it really depends... some horses colic at the drop of the hat *cough my horse cough* while others never ever seem to colic no matter what you feed them. Sounds like this mare is the latter.... but all the same, it is still probably not a good idea for this person tempt fate and keep feeding their mare a crazy diet.

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post #4 of 9 Old 12-28-2008, 06:30 AM
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founder takes some time if she was going to colic she probably would have done by now . Sheshould be ok if she doesnt continue feeding her like that . But things vary horse to horse
I agree. Radical changes are not the way to go, though. Putting weight on a horse takes time, and my experience has been that unless there is some other underlying medical/dental problem, finding a good hay/forage mix does more for putting on weight than feeds.

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post #5 of 9 Old 12-28-2008, 11:16 AM
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Agreed here too. Try to convince her she needs consistency in her feeding. She is pushing her luck, IMO. Freechoice hay and she can supplement, but stick with one method for minimum of a month and multiple feedings in a day.
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post #6 of 9 Old 12-28-2008, 12:54 PM
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Founder doesn't necessarily take alot of time and neither does colic.

By the time you see symptoms of laminitis, the changes in the foot have been occuring for several hours. Changes can start immediately after the causative incident occurs.

As for colic, it can occur in a matter of a couple of hours or even build over several days depending on the cause.

Sudden changes in diet are a risk factor for colic and won't put weight on a horse immediately, so there just really isn't any reason to make them. She wants a heavier healthy horse, not a dead one or a huge vet bill. ;) (Pointing something out in black and white like that often helps get the point across. Give it a try.)

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post #7 of 9 Old 12-28-2008, 01:14 PM
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I googled Triple Crown Senior and they have this to say

"IF YOUR HORSE HAS DAMAGED OR WORN TEETH AND CANNOT EAT HAY: Triple Crown Senior can be fed as the sole feed for your horse."


Therefore I would assume this horse would not automatically be in danger of colic or founder based on being fed 2# a few hours after being fed Strategy. The TCSenior is formulated to be fed at a higher amount due to it being forage based. That's how I read it anyway. If the horse cannot eat hay well TCS can be fed without hay. Ya gotta read the feeding instructions etc..

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post #8 of 9 Old 12-28-2008, 01:56 PM
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Have you tried the good ol' chat? I would go online and try to find some articles to give to this boarder to help explain to her what might be the outcome of her speratic feed changes.
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post #9 of 9 Old 12-28-2008, 05:09 PM
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TC Senoir has ZERO grains so it is a fairly safe feed...unless the horse is sensitive I wouldn't worry too much .. it is a forage based/built feeds ...

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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