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    07-25-2011, 09:01 PM
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How much protein does a Draft Horse Need?

How much protein should a draft horse have in his diet? He is a non working/non competing horse basically my yard art. His right hind leg keeps swelling as well as his sheath. I live in Dallas, Tx with temps over 100 degrees. He is pasture board at this time. Any help is much appreciated.
     
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    07-25-2011, 11:34 PM
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He needs the equivalent of about 2# of protein a day. This is easily met with 30# of 8% bermuda hay (2.4# protein) and no supplements.

Is the swelling worse in the evening? Does it go down at all?
     
    07-26-2011, 12:15 AM
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Has the vet seen this horse?

This is unrelated to the leg swelling, but are you aware of the unique nutritional needs of draft horses, given the high chances of PSSM in the breeds?
     
    07-26-2011, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Left Hand Percherons    
He needs the equivalent of about 2# of protein a day. This is easily met with 30# of 8% bermuda hay (2.4# protein) and no supplements.

Is the swelling worse in the evening? Does it go down at all?
Oh My I am giving a few supplements during the summer. He gets Apple A Day for an electrolite, One AC to help him sweat and Smart Hoof for the biotin. Are those ok? He is getting grain at the barn where he lives, should I stop the grain and go for bermuda hay only? He is getting coastal hay now. The swelling seems to stay day & night. This is the 3rd time this year it has happened. Once in the dead of winter and now twice this summer.
     
    07-26-2011, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by bubba13    
Has the vet seen this horse?

This is unrelated to the leg swelling, but are you aware of the unique nutritional needs of draft horses, given the high chances of PSSM in the breeds?

The vet has been out to see him & he keeps treating him with antibiotics & bute. Since this is my very 1st horse I am thinking we are missing something & it sounds like his nutritional needs are very different. I need to research that. I did have a full panel blood test done in Jan and everything was fine. Learning horses is a total different ball game than my corgi's.
     
    07-26-2011, 10:11 AM
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Coastal Bermuda is one and the same. He doesn't need additional protein supplementation but something like Apple a day he does need. It is expensive flavored salt but they all need additional salt. Biotin is fine too. I'd stop the grain and see if that's the problem. Usually swelling isn't an urgent issue. It can be lack of exercise, trauma (old or new), excess protein (I'm talking way over what he needs but he could be sensitive to it) or infection. He' not responding to antibiotics so you can probably rule that out (or the other side is the antibiotics are not appropriate for what 's ailing him). Has his sheath ever been cleaned? How much moving around the pasture does he do?
     
    07-26-2011, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Left Hand Percherons    
Coastal Bermuda is one and the same. He doesn't need additional protein supplementation but something like Apple a day he does need. It is expensive flavored salt but they all need additional salt. Biotin is fine too. I'd stop the grain and see if that's the problem. Usually swelling isn't an urgent issue. It can be lack of exercise, trauma (old or new), excess protein (I'm talking way over what he needs but he could be sensitive to it) or infection. He' not responding to antibiotics so you can probably rule that out (or the other side is the antibiotics are not appropriate for what 's ailing him). Has his sheath ever been cleaned? How much moving around the pasture does he do?
He had his sheath cleaned this spring and again last month. It is 105 degress here with a heat index of 111....he is not walking around alot. The barn is now walking him for 20 minutes in the AM and 20 minutes in the PM to make him move around. I agree the antibiotics are not working since this is the 3rd time the swelling has happened. I am calling the vet this AM to discuss further with him.
     
    07-26-2011, 11:10 AM
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Hi. We own a draft also. A 9 yr. Old Belgian mare.

THis is just my opinion, and others may disagree but I FIRMLY believe that ANY draft not in heavy work should not be given grain!

Two of the main reasons is that drafts are susceptible to metabolic disorders, like IR (a horsey equivalent of Diabetes), especially from high sugars/NSCs....these disorders are serious and sometimes life threatening.

The second reason is weight....drafts are notoriously easy keepers and can get fat off of air...lol. Seriously overweight drafts are at high risk for founder. Founder is a serious problem in ANY horse, but My farrier told us that founder in drafts is a bit more serious than in a standard size horse in that they don't recover as well (or not at all) due to the weight isssues. They carry alot more weight on those hooves, so when they founder, it's not good.

Because our hay's nutritional value changes from shipment to shipment, dealer to dealer and even cutting to cutting...we have our draft on a supplement from SmartPak for easy keeper horses on grass only. That way if we get a batch of poor quality nutrient value hay, she is getting the vitamins she needs.

We also have her on a hoof supplement, Platform Hoof, and have been using it for two years. It has worked wonders for her...not only are her hooves PERFECT, she grows alot of it.....and her coat is so shiny our vet was awestruck by it.....I won't even go into how her tail is so thick and long I have to cut it every single month because it grows so fast she keeps stepping on it and ripping out hunks.





Whether you decide to supplement or not, PLEASE take your draft off the grain....the risks are too great.


And congratulations on being a draft owner, they are such fantastic and powerful horses...you just HAVE to love them!
     
    07-28-2011, 02:51 PM
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Just curious as to the different nutritional needs a drafty needs compared to other horses and any likely problems/diseases (for want of a better word :/ ) as I may have two coming to stay with me for a bit while my friend is in papau new guinea and I know she doesn't know a hell of a lot. Most she has learnt from me as to trimming and weight wise etc. Any help appreciated as draftys
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    07-28-2011, 02:52 PM
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Just curious as to the different nutritional needs a drafty needs compared to other horses and any likely problems/diseases (for want of a better word :/ ) as I may have two coming to stay with me for a bit while my friend is in papau new guinea and I know she doesn't know a hell of a lot. Most she has learnt from me as to trimming and weight wise etc. Any help appreciated as draftys are not my forte. Love them to pieces but only know the qh realm now that I breed and tb's lol.
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