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    10-24-2011, 06:30 PM
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Foal
How thick is the tip of the frog? Can a one inch nail hit the tendon?

It has happened to my horse and he is lame he saw the vet a few times but the nail had already fallen out?
     
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    10-24-2011, 08:46 PM
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What did the vet say? So the nail fell out on its own without being pulled? Did the vet take radiographs? Is your horse on antibiotics?
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    10-24-2011, 09:05 PM
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I agree with Bubba, xray and antibiotics would seem things to ask vet about.
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    10-25-2011, 02:16 AM
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Trained
I'd say 'yes' is the basic answer to your basic question, but need more info to really understand what exactly you mean & what's happened. Also agree with others that if this has happened & your horse is still lame(how long?), I wouldn't muck around without a vet & if the vet hasn't said/done much, I'd find another equine vet.
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    10-25-2011, 08:00 AM
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Green Broke
Ditto the vet and X-rays. The coffin bone could be in jeopardy from infection.

I had this happen many many years ago but the horse had stepped on a piece of metal fence post that had worked its way up to the ground surface.

She was on/off antibiotics for a month. When the antibiotics would leave her system, she'd be lame again.

I begged, borrowed, and practically stood on the street corner for a horse trailer to haul her to the only vet within 75 miles that had surgery setup and an X-ray machine. We're talking early 1970's when these things were not commonplace in a very rural county that was basically made up of cows.

The infection was literally within a dog's hair of reaching her coffin bone and causing permanent, lifetime damage. If she didn't have a complete recovery, it was questionable if she could have ever been ridden again.

She had to stay at the clinic for a few days but did make a full recovery.

Point-being - get the vet out to take X-rays or haul her to the vet for X-rays.

The tendon would be the very least of my worries if the nail went thru the frog and was aimed in the general vicinity of the coffin bone.
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    10-25-2011, 07:16 PM
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Foal
He was lame in his paddock in the afternoon 10 min. After I handed him an apple anf he was fine. He was walking on three legs. I lead him to the barn and cleaned that foot gently. A one inch roofing nail popped out from the tip of the frog with a clump of dirt, otherwise I would not have removed it as the vet says xrays are useless now, but I hadnt seen the nail before. He came in the morning and put him on antibiotics and a foot pad after cutting an inch away from the tip of the frog and not finding a trail. He was on antibiotics for 10 days and I changed the pad every four...Vet came back the next week looked and said take the pad off for three days then turn him out he's fine! WELLLL. I did, I walked him out jogged him a bit he was ok. Then I let him go..the stupid came out and he bucked like crazy! 1500 pound painted percheron! He came back lame , toe pointing lame..Vet came in the morning and said to bute him 3 days then walk him on the fourth and see if he is lame...yesterday sound. Today 50/50. Vet says it might be sensitive from the carving of the frog. But if the nail went where I showed him(deep enough) it is the tendon before the coffin bone :(
     
    10-25-2011, 07:29 PM
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Trained
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Originally Posted by hyperfocus2011    
He was on antibiotics for 10 days and I changed the pad every four...
Only advised to change wound dressing on the bottom of a horses hoof every 4 days? Hopefully he's on the mend now.... Gee, a bucking painted percheron... what an awesome sight that must be! What with antibiotics & bute, I'd be including probiotics in his diet ATM.
     
    10-25-2011, 07:55 PM
  #8
Foal
He had no infection pussing out...the pad was because the vet had removed so much frog, he wanted him to stay comfortable. He is a very well known vet. I did probiotics! I just hate wondering if I can let him run how long before I know if it is the tendon or sensitive on the frog :(
     
    10-25-2011, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by loosie    
Only advised to change wound dressing on the bottom of a horses hoof every 4 days? Hopefully he's on the mend now.... Gee, a bucking painted percheron... what an awesome sight that must be! What with antibiotics & bute, I'd be including probiotics in his diet ATM.
He is pretty! 17.1 and his older brother 16.2 :)
     
    10-25-2011, 08:52 PM
  #10
Trained
Hyper -- there is not a tendon at the tip of the frog. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the only tendon is the flexor which would start about 1/2way back and go toward the heel. So the concern would be infection / damage to the coffin bone.
     

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