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    12-02-2008, 06:30 PM
  #11
Trained
Hypp is no different than any other disease out there, if you really think about it.

Similar to having a horse that's prone to laminitis and founder, you manage it with diet.

I guess it is different when someone actually OWNS an hypp positive horse than when someone doesnt. I hope no one takes offense to that, but it's along the lines of you don't know what it's like until you're dealing with it.
     
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    12-02-2008, 06:56 PM
  #12
Weanling
A little off topic but similar symptoms.
I have owned my horse Flynn who's suffered from some form of azoturia for a year now and if I had known I would have had these issues when I bought him, I wouldn't have.
I love the horse, so smart, brave, beautiful, and affectionate.
He's a joy to work with but I find myself scared to ride him and trigger the azoturia, I can't imagine having a horse with HYPP.
It's just too much stress for me.
Since I own and love Flynn already and he has no value to anyone but me now, I'm trying to work out a way to control his symptoms and make it work.
I wouldn't buy a horse with HYPP or chronic azoturia again but now that I have one I want to make the best of it. We all love our horses and its hard to see them suffer when you can't cure them, its just not something I would want to go through again.
     
    12-03-2008, 08:21 AM
  #13
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Originally Posted by appylover31803    
Hypp is no different than any other disease out there, if you really think about it.

Similar to having a horse that's prone to laminitis and founder, you manage it with diet.

I guess it is different when someone actually OWNS an hypp positive horse than when someone doesnt. I hope no one takes offense to that, but it's along the lines of you don't know what it's like until you're dealing with it.
I agree with the diet thing... but it is different from laminitis by usually (not always) laminitis is caused outside of DNA (riding too early, feeding wrong, etc...) wheres HYPP can be eliminated by people not breeding NH or HH horses, it is as easy as that. I havent owned a positive horse but know people that do and their horse has had attacks at shows and such... very scary thing. Why breed to make more problems down the line? I don't think that all HYPP horses should be put down, but just stop the reproducing of more.
     
    12-03-2008, 10:41 AM
  #14
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Originally Posted by bgood400    
how is a horse 'bad' because it has HYPP?
I don't think Fehr meant to say "bad" as in a bad horse (the way you are thinking), but there are soo many healthy horses on the market, why buy one that does have a health problem? No, a HYPP positive horse is not a bad horse, it has an unfortunate disease which was probably made from bad breeding (bad as in parents were NH or completely positive, etc)

As Appy said, she always keeps an eye on Vega for any signs of an attack...just because the horse seems to be fine, the horse still can have an attack. Maybe buyers out there are different, but I personally would rather have a horse that I can feed lots of treats to, be able to trailor them to shows or other places that might be somewhat "stressful" and not have to worry about my horse having an attack.

Maybe a horse will never have an attack...it's possible for a NH to not have an attack...but it's also possible for them to have an attack. So as I said before, I would not buy a HYPP horse unless they were negative for it...there are way so many healthy horses on the market that I don't think it's worth buying one that has HYPP.

I am not trying to upset anyone, just stating my views on the matter and my personal opinion
     
    12-03-2008, 03:11 PM
  #15
Foal
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Originally Posted by bgood400    
I once heard HYPP compared to diabeties. I find this to be very true. Sure there are lots of differences but its basicly the same concept. HYPP is a potassium inbalance, just like diabetics have problems with insulin fluctuations. As painthorsemares said a lot of people act like HYPP is the plauge. Even if you personally wouldn't want to own a HYPP positive horse I don't think you should veiw it as this horrible disease. I think the whole reason I posted this was to let people know that these horses arent that different from the HYPP negative horses that most of you own. I just want people to realize that its not all horror stories. I am not against your views. I personally wouldn't buy another HYPP positive horse just to avoid the worry. Although I might consider owning one if it was an offer I couldnt refuse, or I would be fine leasing a HYPP positive horse. The horse I have now and am trying to sell we have owned since he was a weanling, and he is one of my favoriate horses that I have ever had.
With my hypp horse this is exactly how he is and I don't have any issue buying a hypp horse you just have to know how to care for it and when buying the horse know that risks are involved I never look at hypp as a disease that is unmanageable because it is easily maintained, when I went to buy my horse I was told my horse was N/N but when tested we found out he was N/H but he was so nice and we were informed about the disease by our vet and learned thorough care for the horse we bought him anyway, HYPP isn't the plague its just a genetic disorder and its all about proper care
     
    12-03-2008, 03:41 PM
  #16
Weanling
SonnyWimps mentioned something about trailering. We have never had a problem trailering either of our HYPP N/H horses and they have been on trailer rides of 10 hours +. I also agree with what Angel Leaguer said. I don't think that HYPP N/H or H/H horses should be bred. I think if you have the opportunity to eliminate it why wouldnt you? But there are horses that have it and it can be an inconvenience. I just personally don't like how if someone asks about HYPP people say it is absolutely horrible because in reality, from a person that owns a positive horse its not nearly as horrible as most of you view it as.
     
    12-03-2008, 03:57 PM
  #17
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Originally Posted by bgood400    
SonnyWimps mentioned something about trailering. We have never had a problem trailering either of our HYPP N/H horses and they have been on trailer rides of 10 hours +. I also agree with what Angel Leaguer said. I don't think that HYPP N/H or H/H horses should be bred. I think if you have the opportunity to eliminate it why wouldnt you? But there are horses that have it and it can be an inconvenience. I just personally don't like how if someone asks about HYPP people say it is absolutely horrible because in reality, from a person that owns a positive horse its not nearly as horrible as most of you view it as.
I think every horse is different when it comes to attacks and what not. As long as you are aware of it you can take the proper steps in preventing. The show horse I know is a great horse as well...
     
    12-03-2008, 04:25 PM
  #18
Foal
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Originally Posted by Angel_Leaguer    
I think every horse is different when it comes to attacks and what not. As long as you are aware of it you can take the proper steps in preventing. The show horse I know is a great horse as well...

Well said! My horse is actually more relaxed in the trailer.
     
    12-03-2008, 04:26 PM
  #19
Trained
My mare was, I believe at around 3 years of age, trailed from Wisconsion to New Jersey. Don't know if it was all in one shot, but I'm going to say it was.

She was also trailered for like 15-20 min (not a long time I know) but she was fine.

I agree that HH horses should not be bred, but I also know that some people (people that show halter horses) would rather have a NH horse than one without because of the muscle definition. I'm not saying its right, just saying.

Before I knew Vega had hypp, I had thought about breeding her down the road. Though I have crossed that off the list just because I don't want anything to happen, or for the goal to be positive as well.

I would hope, down the road the registries would no longer allow NH horses to be registered, but that still cut out hypp since there are backyard breeders and all.

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I just personally don't like how if someone asks about HYPP people say it is absolutely horrible because in reality, from a person that owns a positive horse its not nearly as horrible as most of you view it as.
I couldn't agree with you more!
     
    12-03-2008, 06:26 PM
  #20
Weanling
As appylover said, I do know people that show halter do like there horses to be positive for HYPP because it gives them more muscle. I think things like this will make it hard to eliminate the condition all together. The longer these horses are bred it may be impossible to eliminate it.
     

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