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post #11 of 39 Old 06-09-2013, 08:54 AM
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Cherie said it quite well. There are many valid reasons for moving a horse on.

I'm another that has many "lifers", I have 5 currently well into their 20s that will live out their last days with me provided something major doesn't change my life situation. I also recently (2 months and 8 days ago to be exact) laid to rest my 'old man' and best friend since childhood at 31 years old, it absolutely gutted me and it still pains me to walk out to the barn & pastures and him not be there quietly greeting me every morning.

Then there are those that I, my daughter or hubby ride now as well as my lesson horses that spend their working time sharing their knowledge and passing on to others just getting into horses what a good horse should be.

Then there are my youngsters & personal prospects. They will be my next show horses and with some mileage, my daughters after I have them for a few years. Should they not turn out to be capable of competition at the level I have intended, absolutely I will sell them on. Should that happen they would go to homes for someone looking to show successfully as an amateur or local/open/4-H type rider, working ranch horse or a happy trail riding home.

There is not a thing wrong with moving a horse on for any number of reasons when it is done with their best interest in mind and to a proper home for that horse.

You mentioned not talking numbers but that is a huge part of it. Horses are not dogs or cats and cost inherently more to keep and maintain. I won't break it down for you but I could purchase a very nice brand new car off the lot and pay cash every year with what I spend on horses. One expense, I will be putting about 1500 bales of hay up in the next few weeks, at current prices to buy outright I would be looking upwards of 10k just for part of their winter meals. Should I get seriously injured and not be able to ride myself for a long period of time, I have backup to cover a year of me not working but beyond that, that loss of income would force me to cut back even if I didn't want to. My hubby's income alone couldn't take care of the farm expenses, family expenses and my horses. Something would have to give and the logical, sane solution would be less horses. Can't hardly sell my daughter...though some days it may be tempting

I hope that hearing responses from horse owners has shed a bit of light on the situation(s) at question and help you feel more inclined, along with your wife, to continue to do your volunteer work with those horses who need the help and try to be more open minded and understanding to the circumstances that may or may not be the reason they are there.

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post #12 of 39 Old 06-09-2013, 09:35 AM
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I think the OP has gotten a good many responses here and hopefully it will help answer some of their questions. I do also understand the OP’s frustration and concern for his wife’s emotions and why perhaps he might throw some of those questions out there. Sometime people just don‘t know until they ask.
Yes, the questions came off very harsh, I agree completely, but if one stops to look at the intent behind them, perhaps we can see the misplaced frustration that probably all people who work with unwanted animals or children have to face at some point.

As a lifelong animal, livestock, and horse owner, who has taken on rescues, worked with the unwanted, and held them at the end bawling my eyes out, I understand and don‘t feel attacked in any way.
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post #13 of 39 Old 06-09-2013, 09:37 AM
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"I'd be interested to hear how you defend yourselves."

Well, here goes. Life was pretty good 18 months ago. A dual-income, 3-horse family, ticking over quite nicely thank you. Then, out of the blue we were both made redundant (worked for same company that decided to pack up). Since then, my OH incurred a disabling injury which has meant he cannot work at present (going in for third operation tomorrow). I have just been diagnosed with an incurable, progressive disease which is already taking its toll on my health. I intend to keep my horses for as long as I am physically and financially able to. However, I am equally aware that I must be responsible and plan for the worst case scenario of losing them. Does this make me one of your feckless horse owners?

Incidentally, the truck I drive is 15 years old and I haven't been away on holiday since, well, I haven't actually. I have horses to take care of.

When my 24 year old mare had to be retired in 2011 due to her ill health I took care of her every need until she passed away a year ago this month. I miss her like you couldn't possibly understand.

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post #14 of 39 Old 06-09-2013, 09:58 AM
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I know I am not the only one that hates when someone comes on, insults and is never heard from again. If you are going to start a fight at least stick around for it!!!

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post #15 of 39 Old 06-09-2013, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Windmill john View Post
I'd be interested to hear how you can defend yourselves.
I am not here to live up to your expectations and I don't owe it to you to defend my decisions ABOUT ANYTHING.

I was going to say more but since you've disappeared, I won't waste my time.

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post #16 of 39 Old 06-09-2013, 10:05 AM
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You better believe that if I have a tiny little pony I can't fit on anymore and am no longer interested in doing just trail rides, the lil thing is going to be sold.
Horses are very expensive, and that's an understatement.
If I can no longer grow with that horse, I am not going to keep shelling money out for a horse I don't even want to ride anymore....that's just not fair to that horse, or my bank account.
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post #17 of 39 Old 06-09-2013, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by nvr2many View Post
I know I am not the only one that hates when someone comes on, insults and is never heard from again. If you are going to start a fight at least stick around for it!!!

same applies to real life, too LOL
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Horses are not pets, although some people keep them as such, they are livestock meant to used, worked, competed with. When a horse is unable to take an owner to the next level of competition, for instance, it is sold to someone else, so a other person can enjoy it. Horses are bought & sold all the time unlike dogs & cats that are usually kept for life as a family pet. However I don't agree with neglecting animals for any reason, every animal deserves a quality of life, and if that can't be provided and the horse cannot be sold to a good home, I think the animal should be put down. Your wife works at a horse sanctuary, she sees what happens when a horse has no where else to go, much like an animal shelter, same concept. None of my pets would ever go to one, if I could no longer keep any of my animals, horses included, and I could not find new homes for them that would provide a proper level of care, I would end their lives. This is what responsible animal owners do, not burden society with their problems or abandon them.
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post #19 of 39 Old 06-09-2013, 10:34 AM
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I agree that it's tragic to see abandoned or badly-cared for horses because of circumstances and/or owner irresponsibility.

I'm guessing your ideal audience isn't on this forum though.

I do really hate to see horses abandoned, neglected, etc. and I think it's terrible. I try to advocate for things that help lower those numbers: discouraging amateur breeding, gelding stallions who aren't good breeding prospects, discouraging clueless idiots from buying horses, etc. That said, I didn't necessarily buy my horse "for life" unlike my pets. My horse isn't a pet, he's a working animal—one that I adore and want to care for as best as possible, sure, but not a pet. If I were getting out of equestrian sports, changing disciplines, had a disabling accident, lost my job, etc—I would potentially sell him. If he no longer fit my needs but could still be a valuable horse for someone else, I would potentially sell him. BUT, just because I won't promise to keep him for life doesn't mean I'm not looking out for him. I take good care of him and I'm making sure he's well-trained and well-behaved, so that if I needed to sell him, he's a high-quality animal who can go to a good home, and not have to compete with rescue horses or backyard breeding oopses. And just think... if I'm keeping him but not working him, and he's still in good shape to be worked—that's not fair to him either. He deserves an interesting life and a purpose, not just to be left in a stall if I can't provide him that.
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post #20 of 39 Old 06-09-2013, 10:55 AM
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Spoken like a true newbie to horses, OP. You'll learn quickly, don't worry.
I don't think it concerns anyone else but me and the buyer if I get rid of my horse.
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