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  • Is it my fault of my horse gets founder
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    04-26-2013, 02:37 AM
I feel horrible I think its all my fault....

I felt something was off the minute we got out there but we had to go up to the main house to talk to the BO cause the farrier and Vet are coming tomorrow had to know the times. Anyways we sat up there and talked for a bit and I thought it was strange I could see every horse in the field my horses are in but Blaze. When we finally got down there. He was laying down. I should have left him alone but I made him get it up so I knew that he could cause he was sitting weird. The minute he stood up I knew it. He pushed his front feet back so all his weight was his back feet. I tired to get him up to the stalls but he could barely move. I feel like its all my fault because I started giving him this oral supplement I think it was too rich. I hope he's ok until tomorrow.
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    04-26-2013, 02:43 AM
There is more to founder them supplements I hope you got the vet out fast I hope all gose well for you
    04-26-2013, 02:44 AM
Originally Posted by loveduffy    
there is more to founder them supplements I hope you got the vet out fast I hope all gose well for you
thanks. I know there is I just feel like he was fine before I started giving it to him. The vet is coming at 11 tomorrow. I hope that's fast enough.
    04-26-2013, 08:29 AM
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Keep a close eye on him til the vet gets there and try to get him to come sooner if possible.
    04-26-2013, 12:18 PM
I just read your other thread. It's an extremely unfortunate situation but everything is a learning experience. Get that vet out asap and get that grazing muzzle back on and properly adjusted so he can't get it off. Now you know a grazing muzzle is absolutely a must for Blaze. I have one horse who basically has to live in his grazing muzzle, people always ask about it and they think it's mean, and at one place I used to board they even had the gall to take it off him when I wasn't around because they "didn't like how it looked when people drive by". That REALLY made me mad because he HAS to wear it, for him it's life or death pretty much, he'll eat himself to death if he's able. Needless to say I moved from that place soon after that started. Where I board him now doesn't have an option for a dry lot for him, so grazing muzzle it is. And he HATES it, but it's for his own good.

I'm sending good thoughts your way and I hope Blaze will be ok!
    04-26-2013, 12:25 PM
Hope your horse wil be alright.
    04-26-2013, 02:54 PM
Thanks for all thoughts. Just got in from the barn. Blaze was laying down again when I got there today but he manage to get up when I walked over to him. Ironically I found the grazing muzzle right now down from where he was laying! Both the vet and farrier looked at him and not only had he founder but also has an abscess is one his back feet. So he's on bute and has his grazing muzzle on but im going to the co-op when my moms gets in and get shavings so I can fix his stall. He's going to go in at night and out with the grazing muzzle during the day. The farrier also to told me to get this stuff called STP (stop the pain. Anyone ever heard of or used it?) its like this all herbal stuff that's supposed to be really good for after he doesnt need the bute anymore. Oh and top everything else off Shaggy hurt his leg front and is limping around but at least the vet said his breathing isn't any worse. And both got their shots so that's one less thing to worry about.
    04-26-2013, 11:40 PM
You need to change the sequence of when he's in. Put him out during the night when the sugars are down in the roots of the grass. In the morning as the sun warms the day the sugars come up in the grass. There is a good possibility this is what caused the problem. We see this more with cool nights and hottish days.
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    04-27-2013, 12:15 AM
When I had a pony come down with Laminitis he came in the the stable for a fortnight before he was even shown a blade of grass again. Only when he is absolutely sound should he be asked to start moving again.

Then extremely limited grass, and as saddlebag said, the night grass is weaker than day grass, and so if you can put him out at night and in at day that is indeed the best.

I would be inclined to stay off any kind of painkilling supplement that is got prescribed by the vet. Partly because you don't know how it's going to effect his metabolism, partly because you need to know whether he is in pain or not.

Good luck with him. Follow the vet's advice to the letter, and phone him up to ask for more if you are unsure.
    04-27-2013, 12:46 AM
Get lots and lots of shavings down - bed his stall down DEEP so that he can lay down comfortably.

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