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    02-24-2011, 09:22 AM
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Flicka had those symptoms and the vets fear was a gutteral pouch infection. Scoped clean, came back nasty bugs on culture. Iv gentocin for 10 days was the final straw, after pen g, smz and uniprim...as well as giving guafinicin...lucky the iv gentocin cleared her.
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    02-24-2011, 02:42 PM
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We had a 2 year old that had green snot - a lot of it. He also lost a LOT of weight in just a few weeks, and started getting scabby sores all over him. He went from being slightly ribby to looking like a walking skeleton in a month. We had already wormed him, and kept upping his feed (his appetite was great), but he just kept losing weight. We were feeding him alfalfa pellets and beet pulp, plus all the grass he wanted.

Took him to the vet, who gave him an antibacterial/antifungal bath and checked his liver enzymes. What a mess - poor guy couldn't metabolize the alfalfa properly and toxinx were building up in his system that were slowly killing him. The sores were from sunburn - the poorly functioning liver left him photosensitive and his immune system was weakened so that a general infection had set in - hence the horrid green snot.

Vet gave him a shot of long acting antibiotics and told us to take him off of anything that had alfalfa in it. (Do you know how hard it is to find feed products for horses that don't have alfalfa in them?) Now the poor guy is stuck with timothy hay pellets, beet pulp and oats. Fortunately our hay is just native grass/bermuda grass prairy hay - no alfalfa.

After a month of being alfalfa fee, the weight was really coming back on and the green snot was gone. Although this has been a bit of a long narrative, I guess my point is could she have developed a sensitivity to something you are feeding her?
Oh blimey I'm glad he's ok now that must have been a bit scary to see.

Uhhh, she's been on the chaff for a few months now so i'm guessing if it was that it would have shown up before now?
And since she's been on the chaff I haven't added or taken anything out of her diet. She also hasn't lost any weight(if anything she's gained haha), and is actually a lot better conditioned and shiny since being on the chaff.
But the vet is coming out today thankfully so I'll have a chat to him about it.

Bubbles chaff doesn't have alfalfa in it, but it does have magnesium, its called fiber pro, dad actually bought it for his calves but has given me permission to feed it to my horses. I checked on the bag and it is a regular horse feed to and a few of my friends use it, I know the same company makes another feed called fiber gain that can't be fed to horses.

I'll show mr Pearce the feed she's been on if he doesn't think it's a cold or infection etc.
     
    02-24-2011, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cakemom    
Flicka had those symptoms and the vets fear was a gutteral pouch infection. Scoped clean, came back nasty bugs on culture. Iv gentocin for 10 days was the final straw, after pen g, smz and uniprim...as well as giving guafinicin...lucky the iv gentocin cleared her.
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When you say nasty bugs on culture, are you meaning bugs on the pasture she was in? Because it's just occured to me that bubbles has been in a paddock for a few weeks now, 500m away from her usual paddocks and the paddock gets calves in it frequently during calving season and has not been re seeded for a while. -Paddock is up the road and not linked to any of our other paddocks.
     
    02-24-2011, 02:49 PM
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Fortunately, the alfalfa intolerance is pretty rare. However, the same issue killed the colt's dam. Guess you could say we were killing her with kindess. The vet didn't figure out what was going on until it happened to Junior too, and that was several months after the mare passed.

Junior looks really good, now, but his growth was apparently stunted, or there is some sort of pony in his background. He's only about 13 HH or so, but he looks normal otherwise. It was a really easy fix, fortunately. Just leave out the alfalfa!
     
    02-24-2011, 03:08 PM
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Fortunately, the alfalfa intolerance is pretty rare. However, the same issue killed the colt's dam. Guess you could say we were killing her with kindess. The vet didn't figure out what was going on until it happened to Junior too, and that was several months after the mare passed.

Junior looks really good, now, but his growth was apparently stunted, or there is some sort of pony in his background. He's only about 13 HH or so, but he looks normal otherwise. It was a really easy fix, fortunately. Just leave out the alfalfa!
Awww I'm sorry you lost the mare :( but atleast they figured it out in time to save Junior.

That's always nice when it's an easy fix, and I'm glad he looks normal now to


-With a glossy coat like this would you really believe bubbles is 25? Haha I turned up to a show last year and got told she looked like she was 6.
feb 24 2011 017.jpg

feb 24 2011 012.jpg
These were taken yesterday with my new camera I got for my birthday
I cleaned her nose before I took them, though you can still see there is a bit of snot in her nose on the second photo.
     
    02-24-2011, 06:39 PM
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Okay, so the vet left about half an hour ago and the outcome was good.
He said it's NOT contagious, it's not a cold etc, he said by the looks and sounds of things she has managed to get a foreign body (eg twig or something) up into her sinus, so effectively she has sinusitus(sp?)
Because it is only snotty on one side he said that is the most likely cause. He said it's not bothering her, she has a good appetite, her overall condition is very good and she does not seem bothered by it. The breathing difficulty sound is just a sound, he said seeing as she is semi retired it won't need big time treatment which would cost thousands due to the shape of their sinus cavities being poorly designed.
She has antibiotics for 6 days twice a day, in powder form mixed in damp feed with mollasses or honey (which is good she loves honey). And he said if the antibiotics seem to be helping we can pick up some more for an extra 3 days, and he also said there is a possibility that it could flush itself out in time.

We are to get all the horses teeth checked hopefully next week and talked to him about it and they have a dentist there who will tranq the horses (my local ones apparently don't and are rough, so they are NOT to touch my horses, period.)

He said if it's not a twig or something it could be the roots of a molar heading up through the sinus cavity, and if it is that will require tooth extraction, but at this stage she is on antibiotics and it's not bad

He talked us through everything and gave us several options, explained where and what shape everything inside her head is, and showed us how both sides of her front sinus (between the eyes) are hollow sounding even though the side her nose snots from is slightly enlarged.

Overall, I will definitely be using him in future, very helpful and kind.

so the judge that abused me at last weekends show for bringing a contagious horse to a venue with other horses can stick it up her bum, bubbles is not contagious, and is breathing normally. Her breathing rate has not changed at all and she is not having difficulty catching air. *pokes tongue out*
I know judges are normally concerned if a horse looks lame/sick etc, but she abused the living crap out of me for having a contagious horse at a show. Is she a vet? No. Did she realise that I had already been told before by a vet that bubbles is not contagious? No. Could I tell her that? No, because she would have red carded me for "talking back".
     
    02-25-2011, 02:17 AM
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Sorry, I was speaking vet tech slang, bad happen I haven't grown out of from 12 years in a clinic. By "bugs" I meant germs. She had staph, strep and another growth come out in the culture. It was thought it started with exactly what you are saying.....in the end.
Praying this clears it up. By the way, our trainer jumped me for the same thing, and Flicka too was not contagious.
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    02-25-2011, 03:02 AM
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Sorry, I was speaking vet tech slang, bad happen I haven't grown out of from 12 years in a clinic. By "bugs" I meant germs. She had staph, strep and another growth come out in the culture. It was thought it started with exactly what you are saying.....in the end.
Praying this clears it up. By the way, our trainer jumped me for the same thing, and Flicka too was not contagious.
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It just annoyed me because this particular judge was abusing everybody except the one person who was pulling at kicking at his 6yo horse and hyping him up into dark sweats and this poor horse had the whites of his eyes showing, judge didn't care.
I hope it clears up too, vet said seeing as she is semi retired it won't matter if it doesn't completely because its just unsightly and not bothering her at the moment, but she has between 6 and 9 days antibiotics which start in the morning. 6 if there's no signs of clearing, 9 if there is. We can choose to, but I would rather do it for the 9 days as I'm guessing there would be more of a chance it would clear it up.
     
    02-25-2011, 08:38 AM
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I'm really glad it was nothing serious. If it is a foreign body like a twig or stalk of hay/dried grass, it should break down with time anyway. Your girl sure looks good for a horse of any age!
     
    02-25-2011, 08:49 AM
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Glad the vet has you helping her get better.


I would not be angry with the judge.
If you were a horse owner there with a healthy horse and you saw a horse there with slime running out its nose you would rather have the judge say something than let your horse get infected if it happen to be something contagious.

And your list of 'did the judge know' does not apply. You had not had a vet look at it yet. You did not know it was not contagious.
     

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