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post #1 of 7 Old 06-05-2011, 12:52 PM Thread Starter
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Question I want her to gain some weight, should i change/increase anything?

my 14 year old OTTB is just a little bit ribby and i would REALLY like her to gain some weight. when i got her last year she was thin, then she had 4 months off when i got her and she looked fantastic. Once i started working with her in September she lost weight and became very "mareish" Kicking while eating and pinning her ears a lot. After doing some reading on here and other places I came to the conclusion that she had ulcers. I put her on ranitidine and she became a pleasant horse again. I had stopped working with her in the end of november as my trainer moved away and i had sprained my wrist and was unable to do much. I switched her feed from purina healthy edge to triple crown senior. Then in april i moved her to where i take riding lessons and the ulcer problem started all over, i started her on a product called ulc-r-aid, 2 weeks of ranitidine and her symptoms went away again. But now i'm having trouble getting her to gain weight. She gets this twice a day.
one 3qt scoop of triple(about 2.5lbs)
1 scoop alfalfa pellets(i can't remember the weight)
2 cups triple crown 30% supplement(it's just over 1/2lb)
2 cups rice bran pellets(i think this is also about 1/2lb)
1 scoop ulc-r-aid

in the PM feeding she gets her smartpacks which contain smartflex maintenance, bioflax 20 and smartshine.
She also gets a flake or 2 of alfalfa hay(very heavy flakes, i get the heavy little bales from tractor supply) when she is stalled for weather
and she gets whatever hay the barn over gives her, it varies were she gets it so the quality varies but she tries to make she Bella has hay 24/7.

Should i up her to 1.5 scoops of the senior twice a day? or change something else.
She is currently being worked about 3x/week(depending on how often i can get up there) for about an hour or so just W/T or if one of the other girls ride her(which i encourage then to do so) W/T/C with maybe some small cross rails

this pic is from about 2 weeks ago
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post #2 of 7 Old 06-05-2011, 01:26 PM
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IMO, if she looks like that still (since the pic was two weeks ago), I wouldn't worry to much. She could probably use some muscle tone, but her weight looks great. Seeing ribs in and of itself is not a bad thing. It is bad when it is paired with other indicators of an underweight horse.
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post #3 of 7 Old 06-05-2011, 01:26 PM
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Have you considered beet pulp? That is what I've used and seen most commonly used in my area.
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post #4 of 7 Old 06-05-2011, 02:13 PM
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my 14 year old OTTB is just a little bit ribby and i would REALLY like her to gain some weight. when i got her last year she was thin, then she had 4 months off when i got her and she looked fantastic. Once i started working with her in September she lost weight and became very "mareish" Kicking while eating and pinning her ears a lot. After doing some reading on here and other places I came to the conclusion that she had ulcers. I put her on ranitidine and she became a pleasant horse again. I had stopped working with her in the end of november as my trainer moved away and i had sprained my wrist and was unable to do much. I switched her feed from purina healthy edge to triple crown senior. Then in april i moved her to where i take riding lessons and the ulcer problem started all over, i started her on a product called ulc-r-aid, 2 weeks of ranitidine and her symptoms went away again. But now i'm having trouble getting her to gain weight. She gets this twice a day.
one 3qt scoop of triple(about 2.5lbs)
1 scoop alfalfa pellets(i can't remember the weight)
2 cups triple crown 30% supplement(it's just over 1/2lb)
2 cups rice bran pellets(i think this is also about 1/2lb)
1 scoop ulc-r-aid

in the PM feeding she gets her smartpacks which contain smartflex maintenance, bioflax 20 and smartshine.
She also gets a flake or 2 of alfalfa hay(very heavy flakes, i get the heavy little bales from tractor supply) when she is stalled for weather
and she gets whatever hay the barn over gives her, it varies were she gets it so the quality varies but she tries to make she Bella has hay 24/7.

Should i up her to 1.5 scoops of the senior twice a day? or change something else.
She is currently being worked about 3x/week(depending on how often i can get up there) for about an hour or so just W/T or if one of the other girls ride her(which i encourage then to do so) W/T/C with maybe some small cross rails

this pic is from about 2 weeks ago
She doesn't look to bad IMO. My TB mares always have a bit of rib showing even if they have a crease running down thier hind end.

Maybe your diet is slightly rich which is causing the ulcers. Between the alfalfa, 30%, and rice bran its like eating filet mignon without having a good salad and potato to balance the richness of the meat.
Adding beet pulp might help as it is high in fiber. I found for my harder keeper TB's that corn helps add the lbs, either oil or cracked.
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Actually the alfalfa will reduce the chance of ulcers due to the calcium. The stress of the move is probably what triggered the last bout of ulcers.

Like others have said - she looks good. If you do want to change things - instead of adding yet another thing to the diet, try increasing the alfalfa.

All I pay my psychiatrist is cost of feed and hay, and he'll listen to me any day!


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Thanks guys, i feel a little better knowing that you guys don't think she's too skinny. I just don't like seeing ribs lol she is my first TB, my old arab/quarter's first sign of loosing weight was being able to see his ribs and then next thing i know he was a bag of bones practically, he's become a VERY hard keeper since he lost most of his molars(he's finally looking better after months of struggling).

I have tried beet pulp with her when she was home since i have my old guy on it but she won't eat it, even when mixed with her grain and everything else just would just push it out of her dish with her nose(along with half her other feed!)
She is on alfalfa because it is good for ulcers as Cat said, also we haven't had problems with her ulcers in about month and a half, the ulc-r-aid supplement seems to work VERY well, and it's also pretty inexpensive.
Crossover, i believe corn is very bad for horses with ulcers because it is very high in sugar

Also we are working on building some muscles, lots of collected trot work and just starting to introduce some hill work also
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it is good she has hay 24/7! LOVE IT! if you want to keep her low in NSC(starches and sugars) i would reccomend beet pulp also. but you need to be sure to rinse it and soak it (rinsing it gets rid of A lot of excess iron and other nasties in it)

alfalfa does help buffering the acid in the stomach because of the high calcium ( i like soaked cubes or flakes of it, especially before riding to buffer the acid splash in the stomach from working)

maybe give it some more time??

in tb's i like to see no rib while standing but while WORKING it is okay to see slight rib. but that is just my opinion

i concur with beetpulp. it is high in fiber but low in sugar and starches (if you get the kind WITHOUT molasses)

Edited to add: i just saw you said she won't eat it...have you tried soaking and rinsing it? some horses like it wet but not dry and some horse like it the other way around..or somewhere in the middle.

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