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        02-01-2013, 09:37 PM
      #11
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by blush    
    Just to clarify - I'm talking about celsius, not farenhiet. So sorry if that was confusing and you are meaning -12F rather than C! Haha.
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    Yes, I am in fareheit, not celsius.
         
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        02-01-2013, 10:11 PM
      #12
    Weanling
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    Oh gosh. Ok so here's the other reason he can't be out 24/7. If he's out with another horse for longer that a day he becomes herd bound. Like that. Incredibly fast. The whole reason he needs a calming supplement, nothing more than magnesium really, and has to be inside at night is because we had to DRUG him because he was getting so herd bound. We had to put him on RESERPINE. A prescription long term SEDATIVE typically used for horses on stall rest. HE WAS DOPED FOR TWO WHOLE MONTHS. So. No. He cannot have all day turnout. Sorry.

    As for the temperature. The BO decided not to put almost ANY horses that day. It was icy> I'd rather him NOT break a leg.

    As for the supplement thing. Well that's just dandy that your horse never gets lame. But mine is. So he obviously needs something.

    Really sorry that sounded so snippy, but I posted this thread asking about exercise, Pentosan, and a picky eater. Not to have my horses living habits questioned when I'm doing the best I can.

    And now I am afraid I am going to be attack about the Reserpine, here we go...
    Wow, no need to bite my head off.
    I offered respectful and polite advice from my PERSONAL experience. Not once did I "attack" you or what you do for your horse. Not once did I say "OMG you're doing everything wrong!! What are you thinking?!? You're a horrible owner!!". I basically said - hey, have you considered this instead of this? Just a SUGGESTION. Jeez.
    You responded like we should already know why you can't do a, b and c. You never ONCE mentioned any reasons why until you snarked back. Very sorry I can't read your mind.
    You asked for advice, you got it. Hope your horse gets better because you clearly have a few issues to work out with him.
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        02-01-2013, 10:14 PM
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    Trained
    You could trying hiding stuff in beet pulp =] maybe ? Haha
         
        02-01-2013, 10:36 PM
      #14
    Weanling
    Darn, too bad about the Smartpak thing! My horse thinks they're practically treats (ha).

    You could try looking at some of their ingredients (in SmartCalm, etc) and seeing if you can DIY supplements, although honestly I don't have any recommendations on what to mix it with-- you've tried so much! If sweet isn't working... have you tried maybe a mineral salt + some kind of bran + supplements? Just guessing here!

    I have heard fantastic things about Pentosan. It's great because it not only helps to restore joint lubrication, but it's also an anti-inflammatory agent. I'd also recommend pairing it with a dietary hyaluronic acid (or HA injections)-- but be careful. Some of the lower molecular weight dry HA supplements are no good (they're broken down before they're absorbed), so look for a liquid or gel (I use hyaluronex).

    For the exercise issue... when I use my chiro, she recommends NO tight circles and NO lunging afterwards, so I'd say try to stick to straight lines or see if you can free lunge him in an arena (where he won't be going in small-ish circles). In my experience, for a horse with chiro problems = circles are bad.

    Good luck with your boy! He's quite handsome!
         
        02-01-2013, 10:42 PM
      #15
    Weanling
    Ooh! A food idea... so, are there any treats your horse likes? My gelding LOVES MannaPro apple treats-- there are several different flavors and they are meant to be nutritional treats. If you find one he likes, I don't see why you couldn't grind it up (smack a bag around with a hammer! Haha) and add a powder to it? Even re-form/bake the treat if he won't eat the crumbles.
         
        02-01-2013, 10:54 PM
      #16
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by blush    
    Wow, no need to bite my head off.
    I offered respectful and polite advice from my PERSONAL experience. Not once did I "attack" you or what you do for your horse. Not once did I say "OMG you're doing everything wrong!! What are you thinking?!? You're a horrible owner!!". I basically said - hey, have you considered this instead of this? Just a SUGGESTION. Jeez.
    You responded like we should already know why you can't do a, b and c. You never ONCE mentioned any reasons why until you snarked back. Very sorry I can't read your mind.
    You asked for advice, you got it. Hope your horse gets better because you clearly have a few issues to work out with him.
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    Sorry, sorry, I'm very sorry. You're absoloutly right. I'm just having a h*ll of a day. And he's my first horse and I just feel like I'm drowning in all these different things and I'm sorry. Ok? My bad. I shouldn't have wrote that post in the heat of the moment.
    Again, my bad. Thanks for your post. Have a nice day.
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        02-01-2013, 11:07 PM
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    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by JustWingIt    
    Sorry, sorry, I'm very sorry. You're absoloutly right. I'm just having a h*ll of a day. And he's my first horse and I just feel like I'm drowning in all these different things and I'm sorry. Ok? My bad. I shouldn't have wrote that post in the heat of the moment.
    Again, my bad. Thanks for your post. Have a nice day.
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    It's okay, no worries. :) from your other threads, you really didn't come off as snippy or snarky as you did in that one so it was a bit of a shock getting barked at. No hard feelings, I understand everybody has "those" days and how overwhelming life can get. I really do hope your horse gets better, he's such a lovely guy and my post was only intended to help in any way I could think of. :)

    Has your vet given you any suggestions about hiding supplements in his feed? Maybe you'll have to find some that are oral - like a dewormer so they HAVE to take it haha.

    And I'm not going to "bash" you about giving him a mild sedative for seperation anxiety. I've seen horses who NEED it and in those cases medication/supplements are required. Sometimes we can't just "naturally" fix things! With my guy being on 5 months of straight stall rest, he's been on constant bute, then previcox, uniprim, ulcerguard, and a mild sedative. So I completely understand that there may not be an answer such as "ah just throw him out in a field - it's only natural for them!" Sometimes, medication, supplements, whatever are needed. It would have just been nice to know that the simple things didn't work and why they didn't work. :)
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        02-01-2013, 11:15 PM
      #18
    Started
    The only thing I can really add is that I LOVE Pentosan. It's really helped my old guy with his arthritis, so I definitely suggest it to help out Xander's joints.

    BTW- beautiful boy!
         
        02-01-2013, 11:52 PM
      #19
    Yearling
    All I could say is I know your pain I take care of a horse that will not eat anything in his grain so I have to dose him every time he gets sick some times for mouths and after I dose him he just stands there looking at me will not even open his mouth for any thing good luck
         

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