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post #11 of 182 Old 08-31-2009, 07:56 PM Thread Starter
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Actually they aren't sold. Pinfiring is used to speed up the healing process to get them back on the track quicker. Why would they waste money trying to heal a horse via pinfiring to just sell it? That makes no sense.
Many many many horses are pinfired, it's not illegal in Canada as far as I know, though the process is getting outdated as AlmagroN explained.
Which vets have you personally called up and talked to?
read the article that says
It is now illegal in this country, I'm pleased to say, and I imagine it is in most countries although the method will still have its proponents, I'm sure.

and the address to the writer is

8262 Coldwater Rd.
Stokesdale NC, 27357

Ive talked 2 my local vet about it.

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Actually Crimson:

"Pin firing is a therapy that uses a small, red-hot probe to cause cauterization (burning) of tissue in horses with chronic injuries to produce an abundant, serous inflammatory process. As opposed to other inflammation processes such as infections or bruising, serum has little or no fibrin (clotting material) or cellular content and does not coagulate. Firing causes maximal exudation, or oozing, and minimal tissue degeneration. The flooding of serum seems to flush out any chronic irritation, and it does not displace old scar tissue. "
"The driving idea behind firing is that it makes chronic inflammations acute and allows them to heal. When the body responds to the new injury of firing, which is performed over the old injury, it responds in a different way than the initial injury. I feel that until the condition is made acute, it will not heal. "

In other words, it creates a new injury (though slight) so the leg will heal up faster than just dealing with the old injury alone.

To the OP:

"Pin firing or thermocautery has therapeutic value for certain conditions in the horse. When done properly, the AAEP considers pin firing an acceptable form of therapy."

Please read the link that Sandy2u1 posted, it is a good read.


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read the article that says
It is now illegal in this country, I'm pleased to say, and I imagine it is in most countries although the method will still have its proponents, I'm sure.

and the address to the writer is

8262 Coldwater Rd.
Stokesdale NC, 27357

Ive talked 2 my local vet about it.
Haha of course the writer (an animal extremist, it seems) is going to say pinfiring is bad; extremists like that think that anything we do to animals could cause them harm.

I strongly suggest that if you want information firsthand, talk to a track vet or vet tech.

If you would like to develop your own opinion without being biased by websites that are very extremist when it comes to animal rights, please do take the time to phone up lots of vets in your area to gain absolutely all the insight you can from them. Speaking to some track rescues would be a good idea as well :)


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Pin firing doesn't make it heal faster, it just deadens the nerves so the horse can't feel anything.

And since the horse cant feel any pain decides hes ok and starts galloping around and totaly wrecks his leg

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Not true. Please read the link Sandy2u1 posted. It explains the process, and why it works. It does not deaden that leg.

You can also find the following on the internet:
- That all bits are evil
- That keeping a horse at all is evil
- That shoeing a horse is unnecessary evil that doesn't do the horse a lick of good

Please do not believe everything you read on the internet. Please go out there and talk to people that are in the industry to form your own opinion, at least then it will be informed.


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PS - I would not hesitate to buy a pinfired horse, and have considered it before. The pinfiring was not the reason I didn't buy the horse.


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Not true. Please read the link Sandy2u1 posted. It explains the process, and why it works. It does not deaden that leg.

You can also find the following on the internet:
- That all bits are evil
- That keeping a horse at all is evil
- That shoeing a horse is unnecessary evil that doesn't do the horse a lick of good

Please do not believe everything you read on the internet. Please go out there and talk to people that are in the industry to form your own opinion, at least then it will be informed.

i did read it!
now youu go read about 5 links i left earlier.
show me links to these web sites about all this evil.
i have talked 2 people in the industry. people i trust. and yet there telling me its cruel, unnesecary.
please tell me this. Y would the governments make it illegal?????
youu have answers 4 everythin else xcept this.
my opinion has been informed.

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PS - I would not hesitate to buy a pinfired horse, and have considered it before. The pinfiring was not the reason I didn't buy the horse.

my horse is badly fired and ive got him 3 years

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Haha of course the writer (an animal extremist, it seems) is going to say pinfiring is bad; extremists like that think that anything we do to animals could cause them harm.

I strongly suggest that if you want information firsthand, talk to a track vet or vet tech.

If you would like to develop your own opinion without being biased by websites that are very extremist when it comes to animal rights, please do take the time to phone up lots of vets in your area to gain absolutely all the insight you can from them. Speaking to some track rescues would be a good idea as well :)

an animal xtremist with DR in front of her name?
i have talked 2 a few ppl in the industry and they're all telling me the same xcept youu

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I'm sorry, call me an old fogey.. but I can't understand some of your posts because of the text speak... could you please type your words out? It is appreciated :)

Secondly, I am happy to read the links that you posted, but they are very biased, and don't portray the whole truth. If you want to form your opinion based on half-truths, please be my guest but you will never be 100% correct if you do that.

As for the illegality of it, could you please post an official site stating that it is indeed illegal?


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