Info On Pin Firing Please!

Originally Posted by xLaurenOscarx    

i did read it!
Now youu go read about 5 links I left earlier.
Show me links to these web sites about all this evil.
I have talked 2 people in the industry. People I trust. And yet there telling me its cruel, unnesecary.
Please tell me this. Y would the governments make it illegal?????
youu have answers 4 everythin else xcept this.
My opinion has been informed.

Originally Posted by JustDressageIt    

I'm sorry, call me an old fogey.. but I can't understand some of your posts because of the text speak... could you please type your words out? It is appreciated :)

Secondly, I am happy to read the links that you posted, but they are very biased, and don't portray the whole truth. If you want to form your opinion based on half-truths, please be my guest but you will never be 100% correct if you do that.

As for the illegality of it, could you please post an official site stating that it is indeed illegal?

Originally Posted by AlmagroN    

PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY OF WHAT?! Those people told you someone stuck pins through the horses leg to make the injury worse!!! Wth do they know?!?!!? Obviously nothing!

Originally Posted by crimson88    

Pin firing is just like nerve blocks they put in western pleasure horse's tails...To deaden the nerves.

My opinion on pinfiring is that it is INDEED cruel. 16 years ago we were in the racehorse business. Pinfiring was more popular back then and I have seen it done plently of times. The horse is NOT sedated. I have never seen it, but trainers have told me they even use a pitch fork to pin fire with. I don't see how that is not cruel, being stabbed multiple times with red hot rods. That is just my opinion =]

Originally Posted by xLaurenOscarx    

And since the horse can't feel any pain decides he's ok and starts galloping around and totaly wrecks his leg

Originally Posted by xLaurenOscarx    

my horse is badly fired and I've got him 3 years

Originally Posted by xLaurenOscarx    

an animal xtremist with DR in front of her name?
I have talked 2 a few ppl in the industry and they're all telling me the same xcept youu

Originally Posted by xLaurenOscarx    

Well you've seen the evidence there from vets saying it is cruel and barbaric. If it wasn't why would it be illegal ini USA and Great Britain?

So you would only buy a horse off the tracks if its been 'raced hard enough'? Pure cruelty.

If its not cruel then why is it illegal?? Answer that?

I did look at it.
You mustn't have read the links I left.

Originally Posted by xLaurenOscarx    

is every1 wrong but you?
Even crimson whos worked and saw it 1st hand agrees!

Originally Posted by crimson88    

Pin firing is just like nerve blocks they put in western pleasure horse's tails...To deaden the nerves.

My opinion on pinfiring is that it is INDEED cruel. 16 years ago we were in the racehorse business. Pinfiring was more popular back then and I have seen it done plently of times. The horse is NOT sedated. I have never seen it, but trainers have told me they even use a pitch fork to pin fire with. I don't see how that is not cruel, being stabbed multiple times with red hot rods. That is just my opinion =]

Originally Posted by AlmagroN    

this is untrue. The horse is on stall rest after, until the injury is totally healed. Im sorry did you read ANYTHING?


What the heck is "badly fired" supposed to mean? You don't know a "good" example of firing from a "bad" one because you don't even know what it is!

bad firing- his WHOLE front leg from knee 2 fetlock is COVERED in scars!

Dr? So what... doesnt mean poo to me! Theres lots of "dr's" out there. Especially in groups such as PETA, who are totally extreme and think you shouldnt even have pets.



Ok THIS made me mad. YOU don't read a damn thing anyone says. You have your own opinion and that's that. I don't "buy horses off tracks" IIIIIIII am the one racing them! You want to call it pure cruelty? You obviously don't understand racing either. We don't determine how hard this horse is going to race, it does! So a horse that has cryo marks is a horse who tries and gives it 110% everytime it races and doesnt dogg out. That's what you WANT.

Its not cruel. FREEZE FIRING AND PIN FIRING ARE BASICALLY THE SAME THING! Only one is hot and one is cold. So if its soooooooooooooooooooo cruel why is freeze firing ok? Hmmmmm?????