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post #1 of 27 Old 12-31-2012, 02:14 AM Thread Starter
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Question Injury that has stumped 3 vets so far...any ideas would be helpful

About 6 months ago I started training a TB/Warmblood mare for a lady in KY. I don't know much about the mare but here's what I do know:
- 7 yrs old
- roughly 15.2hh
- a bit over weight (I'd say a 6/7 on the condition scale)
- never been in training before 6 months ago
- popped both front splints between 3 and 5 yrs old (this was done during turnout...again NEVER been worked until about 6 months ago)
- she has this random "glitch" in her step, like she has a stifle issue but she was checked and there is no sensitivity or injury there, described as looking like she spooked for a single step

I started training her about 6 months ago. It was taken very slowly as I was afraid to push her too fast, due to her splint injury and her lack of being handled. About 2 or 3 months ago she had a small bump on her right hip and some hair missing, almost as though was bit by her pasture buddy. She wasn't lame in anyway, so I was told to just take it easy but still work her. A few weeks later she came up with what looked to be rain rot and it was only on that hip and her hip bone was now poking out slightly. She again wasn't lame, so we continued with training. I had sat on her once by then and she was doing great. The third time I got on her she was described as looking like a "frog" and like "a horse who was scared to get in a trailer" by that I believe they meant she looked like she was caving in on herself and was was up on her toes. We halted training at this point and had the vets out, they put her on Roboxin and stall rest for 2 weeks, then light work, and she had acupuncture done three times and she is still not right. We had her EPM tested and it came back negative, she does show some characteristics similar such as being weaker on her right side and pivoting on one leg instead of turning. She also has issues picking up her feet to be cleaned, almost as if she can't bend her legs anymore, but she walks and trots normal (she is very impulsive in her trot...she looks a lot like a dressage horse). Not sure if it is related at all but that fungus is back as well in the exact same spot and it has not spread any of the times it has been there, nor does it respond to treatment.

I am hoping there is someone who can suggest a possible solution or even a way of working with her to make her feel better. I am open to all suggestions EXCEPT: retirement, euthanasia, and broodmare.
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post #2 of 27 Old 12-31-2012, 07:13 AM
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Not sure where you are, but I would probably be looking at taking her to a University setting and see what all the collective minds there thought. There must be some in the KY area with all the racing industry there......I would ask the vets who are stumped for recommendations.
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I am wondering if she has a pelvic fracture.. that moves in and out of place... and is unrelated to the "fungus.."

Agree with the University thing.

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I think a luxation of her stifle perhaps? I knew a mare once that had a complete luxation but she had dealt with it so long she wasn't really "Lame" just off but it did cause her some pain during some gaits and not others, it was odd to say the least. Try Rood and Riddle, Hagyards, possibly Locust Trace (its a new one) These are all in the Lexington area but they are the best. Good luck with helping her!
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Thank you for all your replies. She has been seen by 2 vets at Haygard, one is a lameness specialist, and 1 University of KY vet. We are currently letting her be turned out with minimal lounging 2 to 3 times a week, and aside from her pointed hip and lack of wanting to bend her hind legs, she is doing well. I am going to talk with the vet when she returns from holiday about the possible luxation of stifle and fracture mentioned and see if she has any thoughts on those possibilities. Again thank you I really appreciate the help.
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What diagnostics have they done? Could this be a low level wobblers? Does she improve or warm out of it at all? It might be time for a nuclear scan or CT scan. Expensive but might rule some things out.
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I would take her to a race track vet if you are close to one. They are amazing with lameness issues. Has the vet blocked at all?
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She has been blocked, X-rayed, had a small chiropractic adjustment, and 3 treatments of acupuncture. Have yet to have her CT scanned as it was a bit out of the owners price range, but I may talk with her about it again. She did have a few blood tests (EPM and another neurological disorder), has had the tail pull as well as other neurological tests done. She showed slight weakness on her right side.
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My vet told me one time that with enough money spent, a diagnosis will eventually be made. The balance is if it is worth it to spend!

Worth is very individual.. not always dollars..
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