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    11-12-2011, 10:43 PM
Yes, I'm sure about his age now.

When I first got him, I was told he was older than what he was. I've had both my farrier and my vet look at him and both of them said he was younger and both of them told me the same age for him.

He also lost his 'two year old teeth' (as I call them) shortly after I first got him (within a month).

So yes, I'm pretty sure he's three and a half (or very close to three an a half).
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    11-12-2011, 10:47 PM
I've talked it over with my great grandmother, and she said to give him until Christmas to see if he's going to drop that second plum, and if he doesn't, I'll have to get rid of him. I'll probably talk to my friend tomorrow or later this week and tell him what we've decided...

Tomorrow after church Jaxxon and possibly Dakota will be transferred to my other uncle's pasture across the road.
    11-12-2011, 11:41 PM
FYI and for what its worth, I bought a little "gelding" a a yearling and was assured he was gelded. Turns out, someone only cut one testicle to be able to run him through a horse sale as a gelding but the second had not decended yet. I had him a good while and also checked him several times to be sure at first. All was fine till much later, here drops a testicle much to my dismay. Upon searching, we found a jagged scar on the side missing a testicle from an obvious home castration for that one.

Had the vet out to regeld and make sure the side with the scar was "clear"...It indeed was. Someone had only partially gelded him as a very young horse when he must have had just one dropped ....and when he was finally about to be mature, the other dropped properly just as it should have as a 3 yo.

Id get a vet to look him over well and hut for a gelding scar on the missing side. Mine cost me the same as a normal castration since he was not actually a crypt but just a victim of a dishonest seller.
    11-13-2011, 12:28 AM
I may look into that. However, I don't think that Jax has ever been gelded.

My reasoning for that is because I know both his previous owners. His 'first' owners found him in their pasture in Mississippi as a youngling (no one ever came to claim him and they figured he was a crop-out from a breeding facility that was locaded a little way aways from their place in Mississippi). The entire time they had him, he wasn't gelded because he never dropped. They assumed that he was already gelded.

His 'second' owners got him and had their vet check him and their vet said he was gelded. They never worried about it again.

Then I got him and my vet checked him plus I checked him very often... nothing... my vet even said he was gelded.

And now this...

I will, though, do a thorough look under there for any small scars or anything, though...
    11-14-2011, 03:02 PM
hCG--Response Test

Unless the previous owners vet or your vet did a hCG--Response Test (see below for description) there is no way to tell from the outside if a horses is a cryptorchid.

"hCG--Response Test
The hCG response test is the most reliable test for detecting functional testicular tissue. It is useful for assessing testicular function in breeding stallions. It is also useful for distinguishing fully castrated animals from those with retained testicles or testicular remnants. The response test is more accurate than a single baseline in cryptorchid horses because cryptorchid testicles often produce less testosterone than normal testicles. Testosterone response to hCG should be present, but may be decreased in these animals when compared to normal stallions. This test can clarify equivocal Cryptorchid Panel results.
1. Draw a baseline blood sample as described below.
2. Inject 10,000 IU of hCG (human chorionic gonadotropin) intravenously. For mini-horses, inject 2,500 IU of hCG intravenously.
3. Collect an additional sample 2 hours after hCG injection "

From Here: http://ahdc.vet.cornell.edu/docs/Sta...rine_Tests.pdf

Please make sure that if you end up giving/selling him to your neighbor that he is not going to breed him and will get him gelded. He can pass this genetic defect on to any of his male offspring. Also, if a cryptorchid is left ungelded it has a higher risk of testicular cancer.

I am sorry you are having to deal with this but it happens a lot more than people realize. If the original breeder of the horse did not want to pay the additional $$ to have the horse gelded they may have sold it without papers and claimed it to be a gelding or they could have sold it with papers and registered it with the breed association as a gelding rather than a colt. I know of at least one crypt colt out there that was sold with papers stating gelding but he is actually a crypt. When a colt is registered as a gelding the breed assoc never asks for proof of gelding so there are probably many more our there.

    11-14-2011, 03:24 PM
Originally Posted by Britt    
My friend still wants him, even if he is a crypt. He would get him gelded, at least,the descended testicle would get the 'cut' and the other one would go at a later date. I don't have the money to get him gelded at the moment. I am going to make a call to my vet Monday morning, though, just to see if he could give me an estimate on the cost and all.
It's very possible he just dropped. He may have been partly castrated and that is why everyone considered him a gelding.

Is he registered?
    11-14-2011, 06:14 PM
No, he is not registered.
    11-14-2011, 07:10 PM
Daughter and her DH "rescued" a mare and a "gelding" just after Christmas last year. This May, the "gelding" surprised us with a nutty little friend. We immediately separated him from our adult mares (stuck in him a pen with my then weaning filly to keep her company). She kept him company until the vet could get him gelded in June. He only had the one little friend come down, but the vet was able to reach in and locate the second one and remove it, so now he is safely gelded.

Never fear - you aren't the first person this has happened to. Because the vet could locate the undescended testicle fairly easily, we didn't have to pay any extra for the surgery.
    11-14-2011, 08:26 PM
Thanks for the info!

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