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        12-11-2012, 09:31 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
    There are a lot of joint supplements that come in pelleted form. I don't think SmartPak ships outside the US, but you can still take a look at their joint supplement chart (which lists whether it's powdered or pelleted, as well as the main ingredients) to compare options: Joint Supplements at a Glance
         
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        12-11-2012, 10:51 PM
      #12
    Weanling
    I have my mare on Pentosan and have been really pleased with the results.
         
        12-11-2012, 11:01 PM
      #13
    Trained
    Have a serious conversation with your vet about management of arthritis instead of starting the horse on an ineffective feed through supplement.
    While MSM can be beneficial, any glucosamine, PSGAGs, etc. in a feed through formula are not absorbed by the horse's digestive system. You may as well shred up money and put it in her feed. As well most glucosamine is manufactured with use of shark fin cartilage and is one of the leading causes of the world wide decline of sharks.

    I have not used Pentosan, but would be interested in the results. There is also a generic IM glucosamine available which is quite reasonably priced. However I've always had the best results with a combination of Adequan and Legend. As well increasing the horse's turnout time, having the horse very well conditioned with a good warm up and cool down session, and a consistent work schedule of a light-moderate ride every day or twice a day and keeping the horse lighter in weight (ie not over a 5 in body score) will help manage the arthritis better than any drug.

    Good luck!
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        12-11-2012, 11:14 PM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
    Have a serious conversation with your vet about management of arthritis instead of starting the horse on an ineffective feed through supplement.
    While MSM can be beneficial, any glucosamine, PSGAGs, etc. in a feed through formula are not absorbed by the horse's digestive system. You may as well shred up money and put it in her feed. As well most glucosamine is manufactured with use of shark fin cartilage and is one of the leading causes of the world wide decline of sharks.

    I have not used Pentosan, but would be interested in the results. There is also a generic IM glucosamine available which is quite reasonably priced. However I've always had the best results with a combination of Adequan and Legend. As well increasing the horse's turnout time, having the horse very well conditioned with a good warm up and cool down session, and a consistent work schedule of a light-moderate ride every day or twice a day and keeping the horse lighter in weight (ie not over a 5 in body score) will help manage the arthritis better than any drug.

    Good luck!
    Thank you for your input Anebel. I was hoping you would chime in.

    I decided today that I am going to have the vet out to check her again. As it stands she is sound, however I want to keep her that way and now that she is starting to get that slight hitch I want to nip it before it gets bad. Most people don't notice it and think I am seeing things, but I have known and ridden this horse for 15 years. I know her better then she knows herself lol.

    I have a wonderful farrier who I have a lot of faith in and has done great things for her and him and my vet work together. So I will have the vet out to check her over and we will talk about a routine with her. I have always been of the mind that supplements in feed are a waste of money but sometimes its good to get outside opinions.

    So I appreciate any and all input. I know adequan and legend work great together, I have had great results with it before. But as I said the loading dose of it is murder on a tight budget.

    She lives outside in the summer unless there is a bad storm. She gets turned out a minimum of an hour a day in the winter(an hour being storm days when there is no outdoor turn out so its arena turn out as stalls are done) but is usually out from 8am - 5pm when its not storming or sheer ice in the paddocks. She gets worked 5 days a week, we don't jump at all in the winter so its flat work or lunging. She is on a carefully worked out diet and snuggled up in warm blankets and a quarter sheet when riding with proper slow warm up and cool out.

    Its time to sit down with my vet, farrier and coach and see what we can come up with.

    I am still very open to everyone elses opinions and suggestions please. I want to make sure I have explored all options.
         
        12-11-2012, 11:18 PM
      #15
    Trained
    Good luck to you! Sounds like your a great horse owner and preparing BEFORE the worst happens. Good plan.

    Let us know what you decide and keep track of your results! Im constantly searching for anything to help my mare.
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        12-11-2012, 11:26 PM
      #16
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by CLaPorte432    
    Good luck to you! Sounds like your a great horse owner and preparing BEFORE the worst happens. Good plan.

    Let us know what you decide and keep track of your results! Im constantly searching for anything to help my mare.
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    Thank you It sounds silly to say when you are an adult but this horse is my best friend. She has been there for me for 15 years now. The least I can do is continue to make sure she has the best care. Every single one of my animals right down to my rabbit get the best I can give them.

    People are always shocked when they hear how old she is lol, i've had to pull out her passport and papers to prove it more then once. She is a spry snarly mare with serious attitude problems. And I love her for it
         
        12-12-2012, 10:28 AM
      #17
    Super Moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
    Have a serious conversation with your vet about management of arthritis instead of starting the horse on an ineffective feed through supplement.
    While MSM can be beneficial, any glucosamine, PSGAGs, etc. in a feed through formula are not absorbed by the horse's digestive system. You may as well shred up money and put it in her feed. As well most glucosamine is manufactured with use of shark fin cartilage and is one of the leading causes of the world wide decline of sharks.

    I have not used Pentosan, but would be interested in the results. There is also a generic IM glucosamine available which is quite reasonably priced. However I've always had the best results with a combination of Adequan and Legend. As well increasing the horse's turnout time, having the horse very well conditioned with a good warm up and cool down session, and a consistent work schedule of a light-moderate ride every day or twice a day and keeping the horse lighter in weight (ie not over a 5 in body score) will help manage the arthritis better than any drug.

    Good luck!
    These are very valid comments as management of the horse is as big a part in dealing with arthritis as medications
    Clinical trials on MSM have never found enough evidence to support its use as an arthritic drug but some parts of Europe have accepted Glucosamine & chondroitin into the medical drug league - the US hasnt approved it.
    I'm pretty sure its chondroitin that's sourced from shark fins though and not glucosamine.
    I am someone who is very sceptical about all herbal etc type supplements. If they were clinically proven to be really effective then the big pharma companies would pick them up.
         

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