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post #1 of 9 Old 01-08-2013, 01:41 PM Thread Starter
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Joint Supplements

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Lately, I have been thinking about joint supplements and how beneficial is it to feed a joint supplement to our horses that are not showing any signs of joint deterioration - just more as a preventative?

Would love to hear opinions/advice and stories about those who have chosen a joint supplement as a preventative measure.

I have a coming 9 year old OTTB. He came off the track sound, but I often wonder if I should supplement him with glucoasmine and chrondroiton.

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post #2 of 9 Old 01-08-2013, 06:01 PM
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My horse has no joint issues, and during the PPE my vet said it didn't seem like he had seen much if any hard use. But, I give him MSM as a preventive anyway. It's really cheap (comes out to ~$.13/day with the 4 lb bucket from SmartPak) and gives me a little peace of mind
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Most joint supplements have not been proven to work at any dosage. As well, because they are not regulated, a company does not even have to properly label a container or measure the amount of whatever "supplement" is in the feed.

I don't feed oral supplements because they simply aren't proven to work. Get a vet involved and develop a consistent program for your horse. Based on a simple flexion and lameness exam, a good vet can recommend a plan of action. Many horses need only a round of Adequan, IM glucosamine or Pentosan and possibly a shot of Legend once a year to keep them happy and healthy throughout show season.
The main preventatives for arthritis are plenty of turnout, a healthy balanced diet, keeping the horse a good weight (ie not over weight) and having the horse well conditioned for his job with a varied work schedule.

Good luck! A vet is always your best resource when it comes to your horse's health.
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I can honestly say that there is a remarkable difference in my mare's movement when she has her supplements. Without, she's dead lame. With, she's about 90% sound.
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I decided to start my mare on a joint supplement last year because of her aritheritis. After much looking around, I decided to go with "VitaFlex". It's well within my budget, and while on it, my mare acts as though she has absolutely no aritheritis and isn't going to be nineteen this year!

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Nine seems a bit young to have joint trouble. I do not know about "preventative" value, however, I gave my old buckskin (QH) msm w chrondroiton when he started to show a bit of DJ at about 26-27 ish. The benefit was obvious.

There is just as much horse sense as ever, but the horses have most of it.
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For a horse ott? I've seen pleasure horses broken at 2 completely broken down with arthritis at 5. Joint trouble is routinely seen before 10 years old in horses with a career.
MSM has show some promise in clinical trials, unfortunately it does very little to prevent or treat joint issues, and mainly helps maintain soft tissues. The only thing that will maintain or improve joint function, and is proven scientifically, is injectables and good management. I am highly skeptical that horses can even digest glucosamine, HA, etc. We know IM glucosamine works, then why do vets recommend injectables over expensive feed through supps?
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For a horse ott? I've seen pleasure horses broken at 2 completely broken down with arthritis at 5. Joint trouble is routinely seen before 10 years old in horses with a career.
MSM has show some promise in clinical trials, unfortunately it does very little to prevent or treat joint issues, and mainly helps maintain soft tissues. The only thing that will maintain or improve joint function, and is proven scientifically, is injectables and good management. I am highly skeptical that horses can even digest glucosamine, HA, etc. We know IM glucosamine works, then why do vets recommend injectables over expensive feed through supps?
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I think it has a lot to do with breeding. If one selectively breeds for a short racing career w/o consideration for bone/structural "health" if you will, you are asking for trouble right up front. My senior was bred to work cattle, which is demanding, and which he did for the greater part of his life. I think 9 is far too young to have trouble and 2 is too young to start them. Although I am sure severe joint trouble happens at 9 - it is unethical imo to give no consideration to their "life after racing" w respect to breeding.

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I use MSM supplement in my horses feed and it does work. I compete in Endurance and that is a rough sport on joints and i can honestly say i think it helps. I have a 18 year old gelding that has been doing endurance all his life and he has zero joint problems he has also been on MSM his whole life and gets glucosamine once a month for maintenance of the joint. He competes in 50 to 100 mile rides.
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