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    05-19-2007, 08:14 PM
  #1
Foal
Joint Supplements? Any one know?

I just got a 16 year old Warmblood that is just wonderful but I havent be gun to ride him yet because he looks a little stiff in the hind end, plus he does crack allot when he is working. I was told that they gave him DL Solution but I am un able to find it. Does anyone have any suggestions on a good joint supplement that works?
     
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    05-19-2007, 09:15 PM
  #2
Foal
You can give Glusocamine Condroitin and MSM. Doesn't matter much what brand. I like the ones that also have Devils Claw, and Yucca, as those are natural antiinflamitory's and mild pain killers. It can be in paste form, powder or liquid. The last two can be added in to the feed. :)

Back when Petsmart had horse stuff, I got a bottle of BL Solution, and mixed that with a powdered MSM, and mixed all that into my geldings bran. I don't know who sells it now... I no longer have the gelding, and my mare doesn't need it...

My local vet supply store sells quite a selection of the above as does the feed store. Also can be ordered from places like Country Supply. http://www.horse.com/supplier.aspx?supplier=Corta-Flx They sell Corta_Flx, which I think is good too.
     
    05-21-2007, 09:10 PM
  #3
Foal
I'm currently using ActiVEX Joint powder for my mare and she's responding well. You can get it from horsehealthusa.com and statelinetack.com.
     
    05-26-2007, 04:02 AM
  #4
Weanling
:) Well I have gone from using Devils claw with no effect to using Glucosamine with msm to major and very noticeable postive effects so I guess it may depend on who you talk too. I have used bute before and have found riding the said horse very hairy as they seem drugged and not alert which I seriously do not like. Just my opinion tho.
     
    05-26-2007, 01:48 PM
  #5
Foal
MSM seems like a miracle drug with my mare. The actiVEX Im using now has glucosamine, chrondroitin and MSM and I have seem marked improvement in the last month or so. There are crappy supplements out there for sure and I refuse to pay for some of the higher priced brands and supplements, but when I find something that works and ir reasonably proced then I stick with it. Just depends on what works for each individual horse.
     
    05-26-2007, 06:06 PM
  #6
Weanling
Hey jr its cool to be a sceptic I was just sayin that it worked for me is all, I have freinds who swear by devils claw but I still don't belive in it coz it didn't work for me and the glucosamine and msm did. I agree with savethepitbulls it depends on what works for each individual horse.
     
    05-26-2007, 08:52 PM
  #7
Weanling
I used to use glocosamine(sp?), now I use a good dose of apple cider vinegar and some linseed oil in their fed once a day.
     
    05-27-2007, 09:13 PM
  #8
Foal
I cannot say for certain with horses as thankfully I have never come across a horse with osteoarthritis but with dogs cartrophen injections are an absolute wonder drug and after a bit of research I have found that a similar product is on the market in the US (not sure about else where) called Adequan.
In dogs this is an injectable treatment administered by the vet usually once a week for the first four weeks and then further injections given at varying frequencies depending on the response to the drug ~ for most dogs this probably averages at maybe once a month but it is very much variable.
However in horses there is a rather large downside - the cost. In dogs it is more manageable as obviously they are smaller and therefore require less of the drug but with horses you basically end up with pretty big doses pretty often. It would seem that cartrophen with horses is often given for the 4 week period only because of the cost - this does seem to have some effect but obviously not permanent given that arth... is a degenerative disorder.

A clinical study:
http://www.arthritis.au.com/horse/hrs_01.htm
This shows that cartrophen is safe to use up to 3mg/kg.

Oh and BTW in case any of you are really interested ( ) the substance itself (cartrophen is the brand name) is 'Pentosan polysulphate' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentosan_polysulphate) and is a very interesting looking molecule indeed! Curiously also used in humans to treat interstitial cystitis...
     
    05-27-2007, 09:56 PM
  #9
Foal
I use Finish Line Fluid Action. It has always worked really well for me on the variety of horses I've owned.
     
    05-27-2007, 10:33 PM
  #10
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by jr
kirsty The current" Annals of internal medicine" the research comes from the university of Berne Switzerland The study conducted a rewiew of data from 20 trials that included 3,600 patients.
Appreciate it, jr.
     

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