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  • Is MSM better than glucosamine for horses?
  • Using glucosamine and msm together horses

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    03-03-2014, 03:09 AM
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Foal
For JOINTS: MSM or Glucosamine?

Opinions on what makes these different? Which is better? My mare is never lame or "off", but she is (more often when it's been cold - we're in california so it doesn't get terribly cold, but still...) stiff once in a while. I want to give her something for her joints. When I last had the vet out (for a small cut/wound) he said she seemed to be developing some mild arthritis. I'm wondering which supplement is better to give her. Or is there something better than either of these? We mostly just pleasure ride, some small jumps (cross rails here and there). Opinions please, thanks!
     
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    03-03-2014, 06:44 AM
  #2
Trained
I use both plus some. My old guy has arthritis, and I have had him on Cortaflx HA and MSM for several years with good results. I am considering switching tho, since there are now products with everything all together. THere are even treats that you can just give one or 2 per day to dose them. The key is knowing they are getting it…..and I know Smartpak is really good about sending samples to try what your horse likes. There are several sites that have comparison charts so that you can easily see what is in each one as well as the daily cost. Here is one…..

Horse Supplement Comparison Chart
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    03-03-2014, 07:30 AM
  #3
Foal
Over here (Aust) most people I know feed both in conjuction with each other. Seems to give the best affect, and they both aren't THAT expensive in terms of supplements. MSM is pretty much the cheapest thing at the stockfeeds lol
     
    03-03-2014, 08:11 AM
  #4
Foal
I've had good success with HA. My old Arab mare had arthritis in three legs. When I started feeding her HA my farrier came to trim her. When he picked up the first leg he commented: "You've found a new potion for her." He could tell because it was easier to pick up her foot. I started taking it after that and if I stop taking it I can tell because it hurts to walk. I highly recommend it. It can be found in a variety of forms and products, alone or in combination with other supplements.
     
    03-03-2014, 08:47 AM
  #5
Yearling
As the two do different things, you'll want to look for a supp with both. There's a stupid amount out right now, so you shouldn't have troubles fining one that fits your budget/ needs. Good luck
     
    03-03-2014, 05:01 PM
  #6
Foal
Thank you all :) I think I will try out one of the products that already has them mixed together :) Thanks again!
     
    03-03-2014, 05:09 PM
  #7
Started
If I remember correctly, Glucosamine can not be used by the body to it's potential without the addition of MSM. So a supplement that has both is preferable.
     
    03-03-2014, 05:17 PM
  #8
Super Moderator
I just read an article in a magazine that detailed a research done on joint supplements that's been published in a Veterinary Journal where two groups of horses with the same levels of arthritis were put through a regime of daily exercise on a treadmill over a period of time to measure the length of stride to see if they improved after one group was put on a course of supplements and the other on a placebo. Both groups were treated the same in terms of stabling and turnout
All of the horses became more flexible and increased their length of stride - the horses on the supplement were no better than the ones on the placebo
     
    03-03-2014, 06:13 PM
  #9
Trained
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Originally Posted by jaydee    
I just read an article in a magazine that detailed a research done on joint supplements that's been published in a Veterinary Journal where two groups of horses with the same levels of arthritis were put through a regime of daily exercise on a treadmill over a period of time to measure the length of stride to see if they improved after one group was put on a course of supplements and the other on a placebo. Both groups were treated the same in terms of stabling and turnout
All of the horses became more flexible and increased their length of stride - the horses on the supplement were no better than the ones on the placebo
THIS. Glucosamine and HA are both unable to be absorbed by the horse's gut. It's science. The molecules are simply too large and complex. As well, a majority of glucosamine is produced from shark fins and is a global problem leading to the decline of a very important species. So when you buy glucosamine, you are supporting these abusive practices :(
MSM can be absorbed but, as above, it's effectiveness can be debated for an already arthritic horse.

The best thing you can do is talk to your vet and make as many positive management changes as are possible including increased turnout, consistent moderate physical activity (ie light rides every day), long warm up and cool down periods, icing the legs after exercise and using NSAIDs after tough rides.
After that, the use of legend, Adequan, glucosamine IM, Map5, Icon, Pentosan, etc.. can also work to manage the arthritis.
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    03-06-2014, 05:37 PM
  #10
Foal
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Originally Posted by LoveMyTBPacha    
Opinions on what makes these different? Which is better? My mare is never lame or "off", but she is (more often when it's been cold - we're in california so it doesn't get terribly cold, but still...) stiff once in a while. I want to give her something for her joints. When I last had the vet out (for a small cut/wound) he said she seemed to be developing some mild arthritis. I'm wondering which supplement is better to give her. Or is there something better than either of these? We mostly just pleasure ride, some small jumps (cross rails here and there). Opinions please, thanks!

Personally, with the jumping, no matter how little, I would rather have more support and protection for my horses. I would do both, add some HA and some devil's claw.
     

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