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    12-21-2010, 08:44 PM
  #1
Banned
Jumping a horse at 3/4 years old

I'm really frustrated. There's this horse that my trainer owns he is a 3/4 year old and he has so much potential to be a dressage horse or maybe in the future possibly a jumper.

The girls who were jumping him today posted a video on face book. I'm a friend of theirs in person and on face book and I was able to view the video. They must have been jumping this horse well over 3 feet. I'm sure you all know that horses 3/4 years old are not fully mature enough to master a jump that high. I told them that and tried explaining it to them and they insisted that "they know the horse and his limits."

I'm sorry but, I don't care if you "know his limits" you are going to hurt him, he's too young!! They keep messaging me saying "you shouldn't worry about the horse he'll be fine." and I'm not answering because, when the horse turns up lame than they'll realize I was right.

The horse has a lot of potential. He knows how to extend his canter, slow his canter, collect at the canter. He's gorgeous and it's a shame because he's going to go to waste. What really pisses me off is my trainer sits there and let's it happen right in front of her face!!

I know it's really non of my concern but, when you post something like that up where every one can see it you are more than likely to get bashed. Everyone else besides me was like praising them saying "the horse is amazing" and "as long as you don't push the horse too fast he's fine."

I wish I could upload the video here but unfortunately their face book is private so I can't get the video up here.
Would anyone have taken a different approach?
     
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    12-21-2010, 08:53 PM
  #2
Showing
Block them
     
    12-21-2010, 08:55 PM
  #3
Foal
As annoying and awful as it is, I wouldn't say anything -- it's their horses, their money, and their BIG mistake. Then again, perhaps nothing bad will happen. But it's not your horse. I don't agree with it, but there really isn't anything you can do, sadly :(
     
    12-21-2010, 08:56 PM
  #4
Weanling
Unfortunately there isn't much else you can do besides voicing your opinion. Sad.
     
    12-21-2010, 08:58 PM
  #5
Weanling
I hate to tell you, but sometimes you gotta let things go. There is a girl that I used to ride with and she does the exact same things to her horses and more.
(It's why I don't ride with her anymore) When you say 3/4 do you mean 3 or 4 years old? J/W. It is such a shame to see such potential be run into the ground like that, this is why I have been extra careful with my guy and he is now 7 and just starting 2'6". I want him to be able to do his job for a good long time. I think I would still bring it up to your trainer, you can even ask a vet, it is unhealthy for their developing joints and back. Maybe do a little research of your own if you need backup, and print some stuff out from reputable sources just in case they really don't believe you. They may not care and keep doing it, but at least you can feel like you've tried.
     
    12-21-2010, 09:08 PM
  #6
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Originally Posted by cosmomomo    
I hate to tell you, but sometimes you gotta let things go. There is a girl that I used to ride with and she does the exact same things to her horses and more.
(It's why I don't ride with her anymore) When you say 3/4 do you mean 3 or 4 years old? J/W. It is such a shame to see such potential be run into the ground like that, this is why I have been extra careful with my guy and he is now 7 and just starting 2'6". I want him to be able to do his job for a good long time. I think I would still bring it up to your trainer, you can even ask a vet, it is unhealthy for their developing joints and back. Maybe do a little research of your own if you need backup, and print some stuff out from reputable sources just in case they really don't believe you. They may not care and keep doing it, but at least you can feel like you've tried.
I just feel bad for the horse. Like I stated he has a lot of potential so it's sad to see them ruining him like that. Gorgeous horse too. As far as i've known he is 3 years old but, they keep saying he's 3 but, than they are like oh he's 3 and a couple of months, than he's 4 and a couple of months and than he's just about 5. My trainer told me he's 3 but, I was kinda going by what they were posting.
     
    12-21-2010, 09:34 PM
  #7
Started
At the end of the day, there's nothing you can do.

I know a girl who bought a 4 year old Warmblood last spring. Last summer she started competing him over fences, it started at 2'6 but by the end of the summer she was competing him 3'6 and almost every or every-other weekend. I feel bad for the horse, but he's her horse not mine.
     
    12-21-2010, 09:38 PM
  #8
Banned
Carleen I truly do respect that. I was just hoping to get through to them. Sadly it's not those girls horse it's my trainer and honestly as a trainer you would think she would know it's not right to be jumping a 3 year old horse. He might be okay and for their sake I hope he doesn't end up lame but, I don't think they made the right decision
     
    12-21-2010, 09:39 PM
  #9
Yearling
It's actually very common practice, part of the reason many hunter and jumpers are put on joint medicine and get their legs injected. Just like when people start there horses as yearling it's to be competitive in the show ring at 5 and 6. I'm for 3' at 4 year old, as I don't think that's a substantially high jump, but 3 years old it's a little early.

Full horse bone fusion in most breeds is done by by 6 (younger for most pony breed, some are typically done by 4), with the last of them being the spinal column at 5 1/2 for mares and 6 for males. By 4 I think horses are ready for full work, because their legs are done, including the hock, which is one of the last bones. I'm not saying they are ready for grand prix jumping or advanced dressage trainer, but I think they are fine to jump 3' or so (although, jump height will differ depending on the horse. My trainer's 3 year old horse "jumps" 2'6" in that he takes a big canter stride over it. He's 16.3 hh)

By 3 a lot of important bones are not finished, and can cause very bad, long term damage, which may not be apparent immediately. The humerus, tibia, and femur would just be fusing now, and the pelvis and hocks won't even start until late into the 3rd to be finished by about 4.
     
    12-21-2010, 09:57 PM
  #10
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Originally Posted by Supermane    
It's actually very common practice, part of the reason many hunter and jumpers are put on joint medicine and get their legs injected. Just like when people start there horses as yearling it's to be competitive in the show ring at 5 and 6. I'm for 3' at 4 year old, as I don't think that's a substantially high jump, but 3 years old it's a little early.

Full horse bone fusion in most breeds is done by by 6 (younger for most pony breed, some are typically done by 4), with the last of them being the spinal column at 5 1/2 for mares and 6 for males. By 4 I think horses are ready for full work, because their legs are done, including the hock, which is one of the last bones. I'm not saying they are ready for grand prix jumping or advanced dressage trainer, but I think they are fine to jump 3' or so (although, jump height will differ depending on the horse. My trainer's 3 year old horse "jumps" 2'6" in that he takes a big canter stride over it. He's 16.3 hh)

By 3 a lot of important bones are not finished, and can cause very bad, long term damage, which may not be apparent immediately. The humerus, tibia, and femur would just be fusing now, and the pelvis and hocks won't even start until late into the 3rd to be finished by about 4.
Supermane first of all I want to tell you that your avatar is really cute!! :] It had a jump in front of it though so it looked like a 3 foot whatever jump with a little cavaletti thing in front of it. Sorry I can't come up with the names for it right now.
So, it was a high jump. I'm okay with little cavalettis, starting him over ground poles, maybe if he's okay with it cross rails but, a 3 foot whatever jump? I don't know.

I don't mean to cause a whole big thing I just wanted to voice my opinions and see what others think. So I hope no one will think I am trying to start a whole big thing.
     

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