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        03-31-2013, 07:30 PM
      #101
    Foal
    I don't even have words to express how horrified I am. The poor baby.
         
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        03-31-2013, 07:53 PM
      #102
    Started
    The people on this forum are so lovely in all their offers to help. I'd suggest Stevenson take it off the thread to PM's, this is such a massive thread with so many people commenting, it's easy for things to get lost in the crazy.

    I'm really shocked at the vet care received here... I can understand a vets hesitance to come out if you were a first time client, they don't know if they'll be paid in the long run. But being a rescue you'd think they would be more willing to help! And with an injury like that you'd expect at least ONE of them to take time out even if they were uncertain.
         
        03-31-2013, 08:22 PM
      #103
    Green Broke
    I just can't understand vets not wanting to help. I know my vet has NEVER refused to show up for something. He came out Christmas day when I had a horse that was a bit off. He wasn't full out colicing but he wasn't settled. The vet said he is likely okay and told us we could just give him a shot of banaime. But I said I would rather him come check him out to be sure and he did no problem at all.

    This little filly just can not catch a break.

    You said she doesn't want to be touched or caught but you are able to get up close pictures?

    I am not in any way trying to say you are lying. I am just trying to make sense of this entire situation. Its just mind blowing.

    I can't even begin to wrap my head around the crime around that barn. I can't believe no one lives on property and there is no security if there is that much happening
         
        03-31-2013, 08:40 PM
      #104
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevenson    
    Endiku .. I was serious. I can take the poor thing in. If ( hope this is the correct name
    Wolfmom (?) does not want to. I am below Davis but before L.A. .
    Private message me for directions or for any more info. She would need to be
    Tested for transport across state lines. CA may stop and check .
    After reading that the rescue uses at risk kids, some may be dangerous or seriously damaged people , which is sad in itself.
    Stevenson, my husband would love you forever if you took her in instead of me! I have two rescue ponies and a 2 year old that isn't broke to ride....he suggests very strongly that if I get another horse, I get one that "can at least be ridden" LOLZ.

    CA *definitely* checks paperwork when you enter the state, as they checked my Kiera when we went through the North side last summer. So she'd need 1) Health Certificate 2) Coggins.

    Pretty sure Rabies vax too, but I can't say 100 percent. I know the other two are requirements though.

    If you're taking her, then I shall resist falling in love with her. Hubby is right...and honestly I was kind of partial to looking for a nice Arabian or paint. XD
         
        03-31-2013, 08:40 PM
      #105
    Teen Forum Moderator
    Sorry guys, I have a few explanations for you! No, the rescue itself does not use juvies or community service workers. See, the rescue is actually just a rehoming program for OTTBs that have raced and are no longer 'usable' in the industry, and they go through 100+ ottbs yearly, letting them down from the track, starting light training, and selling them on as prospects. They don't have an actual facility, but rather they 'foster' the animals out with people like us. They pay for very basic feed, vet care from THEIR vet, and farrier care with THEIR farrier, who shoes everything as a solution, etc. Everything else is up to us. Once the animal has been let down, gelded if necessary, and started it is put on the market to be rehomed. Adoption is fairly easy with them, no hoops to jump through and rediculous processes...which is good and bad. Rehoming fees go towards buying more OTTBs of the track and caring for their needs to start another cycle.

    It is our own farm that using the service workers and juvies, but at different times than when we host the disabled children. They are our manual labor, and we use them to help build things, clean, muck, etc. This provides hours for them and a constructive environenment. The goal is to help them turn around and become better members of society. Service works who enjoy the animals are permitted to be integrated into our normal activities and can even earn riding lessons by working after their required hours are finished. The work is tough though and not every service worker appreciates us...and thus we have enemies. Make a bit more sense?

    NBEventer - I understand, that's probably confusing isn't it? I had her grain with me to entice her closer. She's a sucker for dinner and I HAD to get her caught. This is actually after BO, one of the guys, and I 'herded' her into that panel pen from the two acre pasture where she is kept, after finding her like that. So in that photo, she is in the 'stall' that opens up into the panel pen.

    The issue isnt really getting close to her, its catching her. She kept spinning to face away from me every time that I got closer than about a yard away. Frustrating for sure.

    I'm pretty peeved about the vets too. They're usually good about coming out. One in particular did a great job of helping us with her when she was battling the EHV. Unfortunately he was the one that was already out on an emergency call of some sort. All of the others though, (and one was our farm's usual vet!) refused to come out.


    For a health certificate, is she going to need to be 100% healed up by then? I would think that by May she'll be atleast 90% healed but I don't know what qualifies a horse as healthy or not xD she should be at an even better weight by then (my goal is 440-450 or so) and she'll have two or three more farrier trims between now and then so hopefully she won't have sore feet at all by then. Her coat should have gotten better as well, since its already shedding out.

    I can easily get her vaccination records and such from the vet, so that's no problem.
         
        03-31-2013, 08:48 PM
      #106
    Yearling
    Hm, I dont' know about that, I think for the health certificate they just can't be like visibly diseased. God knows I dont' think the vet that saw Kiera even looked at her, really. But she's a big hulking vision of health. XD

    A little bit of googling says that the health certificate entails a check of whether or not your horse is vaccinated...weird...but you should be covered.
         
        03-31-2013, 08:49 PM
      #107
    Teen Forum Moderator
    Aghh, whoops xD I keep not seeing things.

    We're actually not allowed to live on the property. Its leased Army Corps land. We have the facilities to stay out there for a period of time (electricity and such) if someone is sick, but that's about it.

    We do have front gate security, but like I said, we obviously need a LOT more with all of this happening. Unfortunately though, that takes funds, and those we are low on.
         
        03-31-2013, 08:53 PM
      #108
    Green Broke
    Pony found with slice wounds and ear cut off in Kent - Horse & Hound From 2011

    Sad picture.

    Horse Killed In Stithians After Horrific Mutilation: Genitals Cut Off, Teeth Removed And Eye Slashed This from Jan '12.

    Both the above in UK...also found others in Europe within last two years.

    This is from US, and this year. Horse's face found mutilated after attack - FOX Carolina 21

    And this from county where I used to live, in 2011. http://blog.al.com/live/2011/06/huma..._reward_f.html

    In searching for horse mutilations? I am finding a surprising amount of them I am afraid.
         
        03-31-2013, 08:59 PM
      #109
    Yearling
    Palomine, on that note, last summer, some jerk poured an accellerant on a horse down the road from me and SET HIM ON FIRE.

    Last I heard, he was doing ok at the hospital....

    http://www.erietvnews.com/story/1939...ly-set-on-fire
         
        03-31-2013, 09:10 PM
      #110
    Green Broke
    Is this anywhere near where the horses were chased to death?

    I did a thread on it last year, and there were also horse shootings during that time in other states.

    I searched through animal cruelty database but found nothing that sounded similar to this, nor in your state.

    Have one more I can go through but don't have time now.
         

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