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post #691 of 969 Old 05-14-2013, 11:42 PM Thread Starter
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Oh, ok. That would make sense. I didn't soak it to see, just wrinkled my nose and threw it out xD if I find another, I'll try soaking it. I hope you're right, because that's just disgusting. Not that we don't often end up eating bugs and stuff in our wheat products ourselves...rats or other varmints though? ick.

I might try doing the dry beet pulp shreds if I can't figure out how to get her to eat it when its rubbery. I was amazed how much they swell up with water though so I can see how some people would be wary, especially if they had a gobbler. If I do feed dry, I'll probably pick out the really big chunks just to err on the safe side.

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Elana- me too. At this point I don't have more than a point and shoot camera, and its usually just me working with her, but if we did advertise her I'll find someone with a nice camera, bathe her, and square her up for some good confo shots. I'm really interested in seeing how she eventually turns out, and how the malnourishment will affect her in the long run.
It is not the quality of the camera that takes the good photo.. it is the quality of the set up and operator.

I used to be a professional photographer. I could shoot a wedding with a point and shoot and the couple would still get great photos.

Point and shoot works fine.. just need to get her set up right.
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I might try doing the dry beet pulp shreds if I can't figure out how to get her to eat it when its rubbery. I was amazed how much they swell up with water though so I can see how some people would be wary, especially if they had a gobbler. If I do feed dry, I'll probably pick out the really big chunks just to err on the safe side.
Please do not feed beet pulp dry. It swells with moisture, and you do not want it doing so in your horse's gut.
If the horse won't eat it properly soaked, find an alternative grain to feed.

ETA- shredded is different than pelleted, but I still wouldn't risk it myself. Eep.
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It is not the quality of the camera that takes the good photo.. it is the quality of the set up and operator.

I used to be a professional photographer. I could shoot a wedding with a point and shoot and the couple would still get great photos.

Point and shoot works fine.. just need to get her set up right.
I 100% agree with this. However, if she's still using the camera I sent her, "setting up" a shot is not an easy task.

That camera had some serious water damage to the screen, which rendered the screen totally useless (no viewfinder). The camera is fine internally but taking photos is a complete guess - you have no way to know what you've taken a picture of (was it what you wanted...or the ground?), before loading them on to your computer.

I'd say that she's really improving with her guesses, as of late! :) Goooo Endiku!

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LOL, Well Elana, I won't blame my camera then...I'll blame myself xD I'm terrible at taking photos, and I'm not all that great at getting a horse to set up properly either (I usually end up asking them to put the wrong foot forwards or something and confusing them...oops) so it probably IS all user error. I really will try to get some decent photos soon though, if I can find someone else who is better and photo taking that I am, and who can work a camera.

Yep, I'm still using that Mr. Moody camera, Wallaby! xD My first photos with that thing were aweful, but I think I'm finally getting the hang of it...ish. And you were right about it almost being like my birthday every time I upload photos...I never know what I'm going to get! LOL. It doesnt help that Kenzie thinks that the only photos I want of her are of her nose sniffing the camera. haha.

Maybe I'll practice with Sour today. She sets up pretty nicely so I can work on my photo taking skills with her, then try it with Kenzie and a friend or two on Saturday when I have more help.

Everyone be thankful to Wallaby for being generous enough to send me her old camera though. Without it I'd still be camera-less, because thats the last thing I need to be spending money on right now!

As for the beet pulp, don't worry. I'm not feeling pellets dry whatsoever, I just gave her a few pieces (hand picked out) of the smallest streds to see if she'd take it that way. She did, but now I'm just trying to figure out how to get them down her throat when they're all rubbery and soaked. I totally understand not wanting her to choak, which is why I'm doing all that I possibly can to get her to eat these after 7 hours of soaking. Yesterday I got her to eat about two cups worth, but she turned her nose up at the rest and just picked her grain out. *sigh* I'll eventually win her over! xD

Also guys, I've been doing a TON of thinging, plotting, scheming, begging, you name it...and I just really can not figure out a way that buying Kenzie myself would work, even temporarily. I've visited 8 different stables in my area to tour, ask about care, and discuss working off part of my board, but I've been shot down by all but one. The one that WAS willing to take me as a part time hire in exchange for $100 off of board (so $175 per month) was 35 minutes away from me and I had a weird feeling about it. The place looked too much like our current farm. The man who owned it was nice, and the horses were decent looking, but they only got turned out an hour a day in a small pasture with a bunch of other horses, and the fence was HT wire with a strip of electric wire on top with flags. Not good enough for me. Maybe I'm being picky considering what I'm wanting to pay, but I just can't justify buying her and cramming her into a 12 x 12 (paneled) stall all day with little to no turn out, when she has 24/7 turn out where she is, and I really can't afford the TIME or the gas to drive 35 minutes twice a day.


I talked to my parents about it also, and while they did not tell me no, they were not pleased by the idea of me using my entire pay check and picking up another job when I'm supposed to be using this summer to buy myself a car or save for college, and apply for scholarships.


So, unfortunately, I really don't think its something I can do, realistically. Things would have to work out too perfectly, and as you all know...that rarely happens, especially with yearlings. I'd have very little 'extra' money for emergencies (I normally have $500 set aside for Sour, but theres no way I can double that and pay board/feed/farrier care) too.

The only way I could buy her is if I boarded her where she already is, which wouldn't be getting her out of the situation. It would, however, make her 'mine' so I could sell her to whomever I pleased, which is the plus side. I'd also have control over her farrier care, which I really don't right now.
Sorry for the novel guys, just thought I'd update you on 'whats up.' Feel free to make suggestions. I really do want things to work out, but I have to be realistic too.
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Please do not feed beet pulp dry. It swells with moisture, and you do not want it doing so in your horse's gut.
If the horse won't eat it properly soaked, find an alternative grain to feed.

ETA- shredded is different than pelleted, but I still wouldn't risk it myself. Eep.

This is false, it states RIGHT ON THE BAG that you can feed it dry or wet. Use your head and you will be fine. Smaller quantities fed with the normal ration is SAFE. The problems come up with choke when fed in large quantities to horses that bolt their food.

There is NOTHING to support that it swells in the gut, except scaremongering people with stories full of hyperbole. The acid in the stomach and gut is already breaking down the beet pulp as soon as it is ingested...
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UPDATE: This is how it stands with sorting out the donations so far:

Of the 15 folks who have donated, I have heard from all but 2 people. 10 have said send it on to Endiku, 2 have requested and been issued a refund, one is still under consideration, and 2 names are unknown and I have had no luck figuring out who they are on HF.

For the 2 unknown donors, I believe I am going to issue them refunds. If they would like to again donate, they can get in touch with Endiku.

Thank you all so much for your kind gifts and words through all of this.

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When ever I finally get a chance to take a vacation and visit our son in Chicago then drop down to Louisville,Ky to visit my sister's new place we will have to make a trip over to your neck of the woods to buy you and yours dinner. I think we would really enjoying conversing with y'all.
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That would be a wonderful treat! I'm more the "short, sweet and to the point" type conversationalist, but my hubby is one of those "never met a stranger" types that loves to swap stories, so he is always happy to meet folks to yammer with. I'm pretty sure I bore him to tears...


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When ever I finally get a chance to take a vacation and visit our son in Chicago then drop down to Louisville,Ky to visit my sister's new place we will have to make a trip over to your neck of the woods to buy you and yours dinner. I think we would really enjoying conversing with y'all.
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UPDATE: This is how it stands with sorting out the donations so far:

Of the 15 folks who have donated, I have heard from all but 2 people. 10 have said send it on to Endiku, 2 have requested and been issued a refund, one is still under consideration, and 2 names are unknown and I have had no luck figuring out who they are on HF.

For the 2 unknown donors, I believe I am going to issue them refunds. If they would like to again donate, they can get in touch with Endiku.

Thank you all so much for your kind gifts and words through all of this.

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I hope that I'm not one that is giving you problems? I sent AFTER things fell apart with a note...

At this point if people have not responded then push that money to Endiku ASAP.

Still watching and reading. Still hoping. Still have so much respect for you and Endiku.
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