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post #731 of 969 Old 05-19-2013, 11:22 AM
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I soak my beet pulp but not for long. I measure it out first, toss it into a bucket and add some water and let it sit while I am measuring out the feed for everyone, so it sits about 5-10 min. Just long enough to suck up some moisture, thats all it really needs.

I would think it would be kind of like that stupid "cinnamon challenge" that was going around on youtube a while back. People would swallow a spoonful of cinnamon and it would dry out their mouth, stick, and then when they went to cough, they would choke on it. So I was thinking, as quickly as beet pulp absorbs water, it is very possible that it could dry the mouth and throat out as soon as it's swallowed, causing coughing, maybe inhalation, and possible choke. Wouldn't happen to every horse, but could easily happen to some, so adding water is a good idea.
It's a bit different for horses as they can't breathe through their mouths. "Choke" is a bit of a misnomer, as it's food caught in the esophagus, not in the windpipe.
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post #732 of 969 Old 05-19-2013, 06:58 PM
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She's gaining slowly!!! If by the time I get back to the States, get settled with a job, and she still needs help, I'd be willing to rehab her. I'll be in Louisiana, Endiku, by December or soon thereafter :)
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Do alfalfa pellets count as 'grain' Trinity? She's getting 2 1/2 lbs of the pellets plus 2 lbs of actual grain each feeding, so that does add up to 4 1/2 lbs at a time plus the beet pulp (we're up to a pint, soaked right now). All together every day she's getting about 9 1/2 lbs in 'feed' (feed being a broad term, 4 lbs of grain, 5 lbs alfalfa pellets, 1/2 lb of beet pulp).

When I start transitioning to 3 time a day feedings, I think I'll split it like this:

1 1/2 lb Nutrena Mare and Foal
1 lb beet pulp, soaked
2 lb alfalfa pellets

1 pm:
1 1/2 lb Nutrena Mare and Foal
2 lb alfalfa pellets
3/4 cup DuMor UltraShine

1 lb Nutrena Mare and Foal
2 lb alfalfa pellets
1 lb beet pulp, soaked

no beet pulp at 1 because before that I'll be busy teaching lessons to camp kids, and won't have time to measure it out and soak it. So that will just be in 2 feedings.

Also, do you measure beet pulp weight when it is dry or wet? I'm so confused xD

oooh, Louisiana is so do-able Sky ;) only a few hours over, depending on where in the state you'd be. Hopefully by then I'll have convinced BO to try finding her a home again and she'll be placed, but at this rate...who knows?

IF none of that works out whatsoever though, I have a job lined up beginning in late winter/early spring once I turn 18 (for legality purposes) to be a nearly full time chauffer/nanny/caretaker for a lady with 2 severely disabled kids and 2 toddlers. I plan to have most of my school done by then so it would be a very optimal job...and pay $15 per hour, 25-30 hours a week, doing what I love best (working with disabled kids) which means I'd have more money to potentially look at buying and boarding Kenzie at that point until I could rehome her. That would be only if everything else failed and BO would only sell to me, and Kenzie would be an early two year old at that point and almost (maybe) ready for light training in the next half year or so, which might help with rehoming her.

It wouldn't be permanent since I'll need to start paying college tuition later that year, but maybe it would work.
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You weigh the beet pulp dry.
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Just thought I'd pop in with a small update for you guys. I think I'll soon be moving back to my journal for her weekly updates though, just because her ear is now 100% healed in terms of being open, and the updates will be more about training her, 'adventures' we take, trying to get BO to keep looking for a home, and my own 'WHATDOIDO?!?!?!' moments xD

Kenzie is doing great though. I finally seem to have convinced her that wet beet pulp shreds aren't all that bad, and she's eating a poud right now, slowly increasing. As of tomorrow I'll be moving to a 3-time-a-day feeding regiment too. We've been doing some light ground work, mostly working towards her being comfortable with me messing with her face and legs, her two biggest issues right now. The legs are good, she isn't particularely fond of me picking them or anything, but she tolerates it. With the face though, she's still petrified of me trying to touch that ear. I've gotten to the point of being able to stroke her good ear and she's fine with that side of her face, but any sudden movement on the other side, or me trying to tough past where her bridle path would be or past her cheek and she'll jerk backwards. We're slowly overcoming this though, and making progress. Just a lot of repetitiveness and quick pressure release on my part. I dealt with this problem with Sour about a year ago, so I'm not compeltely lost on what to do, but its definitely a little different trying to desensatize a 12.3hh+ filly versus a 34" tall mini XD. I'm also trying to get her used to wearing a fly mask just because the flies are pretty bad this time of year and they tend to bother the horse's eyes, so thats a work in progress also.

She's pretty much perfected leading on a loose line though, and is ponying fairly well too. We're working on 'woah' with my voice, and backing up, and I'm discovering that she really does want to please. She's just so darned WORRIED looking all of the time. It makes me feel aweful!

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Endiku, your signature always throws me a bit... For some reason I always read it as "Try not, gain weight".... every friggin time.
Anyway, sounds like Kenzie is doing great, that's so good to hear! I feel like she should be HF's mascot, everyone on here loves her so much. I know I'd vote for her, haha.
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LOL. Well I guess that one could be true too.... ;)

I guess its kind of like me and having always read TinyLiny's name as TinyLily, or seeing Cacowgirl's name and for some reason always seeing 'cacao girl' no matter how many times I go 'NO. Its COW. COW COW COW.'

Confessions! LOL

Also, my appologies for all of those typos in my other post guys. I forgot to proof read. Heh...
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Endiku again you never cease to amaze me. Your parents must be so proud. Not too many people your age will be around disabled kids much less work with them. Kudos to you. I second the motion to have Kenzie be the forum mascot!
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Oh but they're such amazing kids! Being out at the farm with them is probably my favorite thing to do, even if I do get tired at times. The looks on their faces when they finally accomplish something is so priceless. One of the little girls in particular what completely wheelchair bound, always cried when you asked her to do something, and couldn't move her legs enough to sit astride a horse comfortably. So a massage therapist started coming out and she and I teamed up to help this little girl out. She had to be manually held on by four people (she's a 'big' little girl if you catch my drift, and had back/leg/core strength). Its been about a year and a half since I first started working with her and she only has one side walker now, and she can hold herself in the saddle, fix herself when she starts leaning to her dominant side, and even sit for a short period without holding herself on with her arms. She's also walking with a walker. Even more amazing though, is that when she first started coming out, I didn't think she could talk. She has a paralyzed vocal cord, and her dad speaks very broken english. But I always try to make a point to engage the kids anyways, in hopes that at some point they'll be able to link 'their' world to mine...or vice versa, and that they will understand me.

So one day I was just walking along with her, telling her some funny stories about her favorite donkey on our property, the infamous Pedro who 'honks' at anyone who passes, but seems to really like her. I was mimicking him and she was laughing, when she pointed at his pen to show me the two new ponies we had. I explained to her that some girl in college had donated them to us, but they didn't have names, and asked her if she had any good ideas. I didn't expect an answer obviously, and kept walking when I heard this very gruff, but at the same time, clear "Name them Kung Fu and Magic." I seriously just about started bawling! It had already been 8 months since I had started working with her and I'd NEVER been able to bridge that gap of language with her, but all of a sudden she opened up and gave me two (very cute) names! O_O We ofcourse HAD to name them that, and to this day Kung Fu and Magic follow us in their pen when we walk past them, having no idea that they played a huge part in our progress. The little girl now speaks to me enthusastically every week although apparently I'm the only one (besides her dad) who understands what she's saying, and she's SO neat! She loves anything to do with the army (which is awesome considering that my parents were in the army and I was an army so we relate any of her harder exercises to boot camp, and she loves it. We're always saying 'no pain no gain!' and she carries a nerf sword with her wherever she goes. Cutest thing ever.

LOL, sorry. Got a little carried away. I have a billion stories about 'my' kids at the farm that I annoy people with. I really do love working with them. I guess thats one of the reasons I'm so reculent to leave the farm. If I did that, I'd loose the kids. And honestly...I've become such a big part of the therapy program (I practically run it myself) that I really don't know what would become of it without me. I'm sure it would be fine, but that back part of my mind just can't convince itself that it would be ok for me to leave.

Oh life choices, how you irk me...xD

haha, Kenzie as the forum mascot would be adorable!

Do you guys think it would be ok to add her to my virtual barn, even if she's not necessarily mine? Or is that against a forum code or something?

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Please add her to your barn!

The story about the little girl is amazing. You have made such a difference in her life. Have you thought about going into special education as a career?

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